Proof of income??

[Sandwalk]

What is the name of your state?iowa

I am wondering if you can tell me how it is possible to get the amount of Child Support that would be fair instead of the amount that I had to settle for because my ex cheats on his taxes?
My ex-husband makes well over $20.00 an hour because he owns his own construction business. Unfortunately he does not claim to make anything on his taxes and early on when he did not want to pay anything for CS I had to go to the Child Support Recovery. They looked at his tax forms and said that all they could get me with the info that they had was $143.00 for 3 children. This amount was a joke considering what he really makes. Well....when the divorce was going through I was able to get $200 per child but, I know that according to what he makes that is on the very low side.
I just wonder if there is a way other than tax forms that I can prove what he really makes? I am worried that if I do take him back for a modification that I might get less than the $200 because he says he makes nothing.
Thanks in advance!!

 

[bononos]

Now you need to ignore FARTS and SKANK!
Click on the posters name, in the blue line across the screen, click the ignore poster!

OR TRY...(as provided by another poster)

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[betterthanher]

What is the name of your state?iowa

I am wondering if you can tell me how it is possible to get the amount of Child Support that would be fair instead of the amount that I had to settle for because my ex cheats on his taxes?
My ex-husband makes well over $20.00 an hour because he owns his own construction business. Unfortunately he does not claim to make anything on his taxes and early on when he did not want to pay anything for CS I had to go to the Child Support Recovery. They looked at his tax forms and said that all they could get me with the info that they had was $143.00 for 3 children. This amount was a joke considering what he really makes. Well....when the divorce was going through I was able to get $200 per child but, I know that according to what he makes that is on the very low side.
I just wonder if there is a way other than tax forms that I can prove what he really makes? I am worried that if I do take him back for a modification that I might get less than the $200 because he says he makes nothing.
Thanks in advance!!

You would have to do a request to produce, discovery, etc. That can be very costly and time-consuming. You would really need the assistance of a lawyer in this situation. You wouldn't be able to modify your current order since that is what you agreed to. Your time to do something about his allegedly cheating on his taxes was then -- not now.
If all he had was a legitimate tax return, that is what they go by.

 

[Sandwalk]

Your time to do something about his allegedly cheating on his taxes was then -- not now.

Allegedly???? I think that if he only had to pay $143 a month and makes over $20 an hour.....I think that he is cheating on his taxes...he always has....you do the math!!

Why would I not be able do a modification? It has been over 5 years. I don't want the money for myself....my kids need to be taken care of. I do the best that I can for my kids but, it would not hurt him to step up a little more.

 

[betterthanher]

Allegedly???? I think that if he only had to pay $143 a month and makes over $20 an hour.....I think that he is cheating on his taxes...he always has....you do the math!!

Yes -- allegedly! Unless you can PROVE it, that's all it is. Allegations.

Why would I not be able do a modification? It has been over 5 years.

Umm...maybe if you would have mentioned this IN YOUR FIRST POST....

Can we please get an emoticon that resembles someone banging their head against a wall or table??

I don't want the money for myself....my kids need to be taken care of. I do the best that I can for my kids but, it would not hurt him to step up a little more.

If you want him to "step up", then you need to prove he's making the money you allege he is. The court will not hear about what you claim he's making. And you won't be able to modify to get back support, either.

 

[Sandwalk]

I don't want back support...I just think that it would be nice if he would help out more! He makes the money I say he does and lives high on the hog and doesn't do anymore than pay as a little as possible. That is all I was wondering about!

 

[nextwife]

I think that he is cheating on his taxes...he always has....you do the math!!

Did you challenge it when you were in the marriage and benefiting from the household paying less in taxes due to under-reporting?

 

[Whyte Noise]

Yes, because if he was cheating on his taxes and "he always has!" as you said... if you filed joint returns with him while married, guess who else besides him the IRS will come after....

 

[LdiJ]

Allegedly???? I think that if he only had to pay $143 a month and makes over $20 an hour.....I think that he is cheating on his taxes...he always has....you do the math!!

Why would I not be able do a modification? It has been over 5 years. I don't want the money for myself....my kids need to be taken care of. I do the best that I can for my kids but, it would not hurt him to step up a little more.

Hon...how are you going to prove what kind of money he is making if he is cheating on his taxes? At least how are you going to do it without going into very serious investigative expense?

Don't get me wrong...I am an accountant and a professional tax preparer and I have no sympathy for people who cheat on their taxes. However, the bottom line is that unless/until the IRS gets around to auditing him....your problem isn't going to go away....and in fact could get worse because of the potentially huge debt he could end up owing the IRS.

However, you can take comfort in one thing. He is going to end up being a very poor old man. These games he is playing mean that he is not amassing any real social security credits...therefore he is going to get squat when he retires.

I have a client right now who is fanatical about NOT claiming all of his expenses (drives me nuts) because he wants to have a higher income so that he is contributing more to social security. Why? Because the uncle who taught him his craft is suddenly in dire straights....because he is over retirement age, has health issues that make it impossible for him to work....and he is only getting about 150.00 a month in social security retirement...because he has no credit...because he cheated on his taxes his entire life.

 

[Sandwalk]

However, you can take comfort in one thing. He is going to end up being a very poor old man. These games he is playing mean that he is not amassing any real social security credits...therefore he is going to get squat when he retires.

I did tell him that for years....can't tell the man anything...hence one of the many reasons I am no longer with him.

I know that finding out what his real income is would be next to impossible. I tried to do that when we went through the divorce. I just thought that I would ask if anyone here had any advice. I don't think that the amount that my children receive for CS is fair to them. I just wonder when anyone comes on here and asks about getting a little more CS (especially from someone who can afford it and should be paying more and just does not want to), people jump down their throat. I am not a money hungry witch. I just think that he helped bring these kids into the world and should want to help support them and at the very least give them what they need. I should not have had to go to Child Support Recovery in the first place.....he should have wanted to support them on his own without all the BS. Some men do not care if they help support their kids with THEIR almighty dollar....and he is one of them!

 

[nextwife]

Some men do not care if they help support their kids with THEIR almighty dollar....and he is one of them!

Some "parents".

Actually, a greater number of FEMALE NCPs default on payments than male. A great many women fail to help support their kids- and live off their kids CS rather than support thenmselves and earn their share of the cost of supporting their child. If a mom is using the CS to pay ALL their own expenses, instead of supporting themself, and using the CS for it's intended purpose, which is dad's share of the cost of adding that child to their household, they are cheating their child out of support, same as dad's who aren't paying.

Some PARENTS don't care if they support their kids. Men are not the only gender for which this is true.

 

[Sandwalk]

Actually I didn't mean that it is only MEN who do not want to support their children. In my case, it is a man. Shame on anyone who would rather be an ass instead of help support innocent children.

I on the other hand always give to my kids before myself. Is it wrong to want to be able to do that without struggling??

I would have to say that I must have hit a nerve with you nextwife.