public guardian scam

[BDonias]

texas

My mother was appointed a public guardian (guardian of the person only)

This guardian went to my moms bank and put herself beneficary on moms accounts. The guardian removed my brother from the accounts. The guardian also claimed the disability insurance from the bank. The Guardian also put herself beneficiary on my moms life insurance policy which was to pay for my moms burial. Imagine when we learned upon our moms death there was no insurance. The guardian cashed it in and was refunded the premiums weeks before my moms death.

I have talked to numerous attorneys and no one will go up against a public guardian. I have made complaints to the court to which the court has never acknowledge. This complaint was sent certified. The pro bono attorney will not help because they say it is a fee generated case.

Can anyone help me out as what to do next? The DA says this is a civil case.

Is there a court higher up I can complain to? There must be a way to hold this guardian accountable.

 

[BlondiePB]

I have talked to numerous attorneys and no one will go up against a public guardian.

That's because there is no case. The guardian accounted for every penny to the court.

 

[mceedee]

County & Guardians

For all who are experiencing this problem, you are not alone.
Long story for most of us. WE have been dealing with it for over 2.5 years, $60,000 atty fees and losing $400,000 due to guardian embezzlement of accounts that didn't even belong to the ward.
Please never give up. We lost a much loved Aunt, they orchestrared her accident that resulted in death. Falsified her death certificate, hospital records, records of the home, cemetary and crematorium. She laid in hospital 5 days in a coma and never told family. We found out after she had been cremated and buried.
Again, never give up. My quest is to see the people are stopped at all costs.
If the Guardian is also an attorney, file grievances with the State Bar. Make sure you have paperwork to back up what you say. We will succeed in getting these people disbarred.
As far as trying to get someone to do something about the County, that's a long hard road. The DA in our County had a "shut-up and go away" meeting with us then told us "You are only victims of errors."
We wiil not shut up and we will not go away. One day we will all be at an age that someone can do this to us and take everything away from loving caring families!
We must fight!

 

[BDonias]

Guardianship scam

That's because there is no case. The guardian accounted for every penny to the court.

You didnt ask. you are so wrong. Stop protecting these bad public guardians.
No she was not an attorney. She worked for a services.

The guardians report to the court is that my mom had no estate.

 

[BlondiePB]

You didnt ask.

Didn't ask what?

Why were you NOT appointed guardian of your own mother?

Stop protecting these bad public guardians.

I wasn't. I was just stating facts. Regardless if a guardian is a relative, neighbor, attorney, public or non-public guardian, the guardian MUST report to the court. There are no ifs, what, or buts about it.

The guardians report to the court is that my mom had no estate.

Hire an attorney!!

 

[BDonias]

Didn't ask what?

Why were you NOT appointed guardian of your own mother?

I wasn't. I was just stating facts. Regardless if a guardian is a relative, neighbor, attorney, public or non-public guardian, the guardian MUST report to the court. There are no ifs, what, or buts about it.

Hire an attorney!!

The courts did not give a reason as to why I was denied Guardianship. The court order says I was found to be suitable able and willing. But that guardianship would be given to this service. I have inquired about this and have not been given an answer.

You didnt ask about the guardians report. The guardian only made one report that was a final report my mom died 2 and half months after this guardian was placed. Due to negligence and abuse. The report only ask questions and didnt have the guardian to go into detail.. The guardian report said my mom had no estate. And once again the guardian was of the person only NOT of the estate.
Just curious you don't seem to be a very good reader as it takes you a lot of time to understand what you read. Just a suggestion maybe you should read these post over and over again so that the writers dont have to repeat and repeat ourselves to things we already written.

 

[BlondiePB]

You didnt ask about the guardians report.

Was I supposed to ask you about the guardian's report? Sorry, my crystal ball is in for repairs.

Just curious you don't seem to be a very good reader as it takes you a lot of time to understand what you read. Just a suggestion maybe you should read these post over and over again so that the writers dont have to repeat and repeat ourselves to things we already written.

Sometimes, I do miss things. What I did read prior to my very first post was your history on this site. What I read on one of your posts, that you conveniently deleted, was that your mother's social worker reported that "you were trouble".

What I also read is this other post of yours in the real estate section:

BDonias
Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Fort Worth
Posts: 6

judgement on homestead real estate

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What is the name of your state? Texas

A finance company placed a judgement on my home 10 years age. They now have sent a letter to renew the judgement. This was for a repossed automobile. The house was homesteaded at the time and the home was not used for collateral to purchase the automobile.

Is it legal to place a judgement of this type on a homestead? Is there something I can do to have it removed.
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bjeand

Then, you come back here and say that you do not know why you were NOT appointed your own mother's guardian? Great examples of credibility.

All you need is a whole lot of cash for a retainer for an attorney. About $20,000.00 might secure one for you in order to bring this to civil trial. Good Luck.

 

[BDonias]

Was I supposed to ask you about the guardian's report? Sorry, my crystal ball is in for repairs.

Sometimes, I do miss things. What I did read prior to my very first post was your history on this site. What I read on one of your posts, that you conveniently deleted, was that your mother's social worker reported that "you were trouble".

What I also read is this other post of yours in the real estate section:

Then, you come back here and say that you do not know why you were NOT appointed your own mother's guardian? Great examples of credibility.

All you need is a whole lot of cash for a retainer for an attorney. About $20,000.00 might secure one for you in order to bring this to civil trial. Good Luck.

FYI the social worker called me trouble because I did what any daughter would do when her mother has black and blue eyes as if she had been beaten up. I made a report to the proper agencies. My mom was abused and neglected constantly. She was overmedicated, the medication left her blind and deaf. The medication was for a terminal illness my mother never had. Upon her death the police were called an autopsy was performed. Mom did not have a terminal illness. The family ask for a test to which her guardian refused to allow to confirm the Drs diagnosis. In the end my mom died from starvation, dehydration, overmedication and heart attack. My mom would tell us they were going to let her die. So you can stop assuming you know everything. You are small minded. people like you are the reason we have a long fight in front of us to stop nursing home killings. I will no longer reply to you. You are part of the problem not part of the solution.

 

[BlondiePB]

FYI the social worker called me trouble because I did what any daughter would do when her mother has black and blue eyes as if she had been beaten up. I made a report to the proper agencies. My mom was abused and neglected constantly. She was overmedicated, the medication left her blind and deaf. The medication was for a terminal illness my mother never had. Upon her death the police were called an autopsy was performed. Mom did not have a terminal illness. The family ask for a test to which her guardian refused to allow to confirm the Drs diagnosis. In the end my mom died from starvation, dehydration, overmedication and heart attack. My mom would tell us they were going to let her die. So you can stop assuming you know everything. You are small minded. people like you are the reason we have a long fight in front of us to stop nursing home killings. I will no longer reply to you. You are part of the problem not part of the solution.

You are an idiot, Beverly - a DENSE idiot that lacks credibility as demonstrated by even attempting to "cover your tracks" on this site. Even a judge extended your brother's DPOA to include MPOA rather than award it to you prior to any petitions for guardianship of your mother. Your brother whom you claim stole whatever assests your mother had with his DPOA. You are soooooo DENSE that you didn't even call 911 when your mother was even having medical problems in the nursing home prior to her being enrolled in Hospice.

You are such a BUCKETHEAD that you cannot even read/understand HIRE AN ATTORNEY!!! Are you expecting someone in cyberspace to take your case and spend their OWN money on discovery and bring your allegations to trial? There's no one here in cyberspace that will. You came here for free advice, you got it.

 

[mceedee]

Shut up and go away meeting

BDonias,
Sounds like the DA had one of those shut up and go away meetings with you too. The DA in the County of the Guardian will most proabably not do anything. We had one in our County for the County appointed Guardian of Property. This Guardian did pretty much the same thing except for he put his name on accounts that did not even belong to the person he was Guaridian of Property for.
The ward was our Aunt. The Guardian along with help from someone at Wachovia Bank and Wachovia Securities put the Guardian's name and Social Security Number on our account, AFTER we froze the account using an attorney to do so.
These Guardians that the County use are usually not monitored. The Probate dept even gave a different Guardian Ad Litem to sale our Aunt's house by saying that she had moved out of state. What a lie, she was only 30-40 miles away.
They tried to claim that the nephews were starving her to death. One nephew lived in Wisconsin, we are in GA. The other nephew was not the caregiver, I was. They claimed this and tried to have nephew arrested for Elder Abuse and Felony Fraud claiming that we stole all of the Aunt's money. She hbad no money, we spent $145,000 taking care of her. Probate records show that she was mentally incompetent and they only gave her a guardian of property. A new will was made, all of the Estate was supposed to go to charity. A fake Minister ended up with it. By the time the Probate for the will (2 wills) hearing came up, the Estate had $24,000 out of $115,000. And guess where that money came from?
The Guardian unfroze our accounts without our knowledge by sending a Letter of Temporary Emergency Guardianship to Wachovia and claimed that the mail was at risk of being stolen and they changed the address. Problem is it was not Aunt's address the account and statements came to it was ours, becuase it was our account. I even sent a letter to Wachovia CEO trying to get help. Wachovia claims it is all in our minds.
Guardian stole alot of money. Think the DA cared?

 

[BDonias]

BDonias,
Sounds like the DA had one of those shut up and go away meetings with you too. The DA in the County of the Guardian will most proabably not do anything. We had one in our County for the County appointed Guardian of Property. This Guardian did pretty much the same thing except for he put his name on accounts that did not even belong to the person he was Guaridian of Property for.
The ward was our Aunt. The Guardian along with help from someone at Wachovia Bank and Wachovia Securities put the Guardian's name and Social Security Number on our account, AFTER we froze the account using an attorney to do so.
These Guardians that the County use are usually not monitored. The Probate dept even gave a different Guardian Ad Litem to sale our Aunt's house by saying that she had moved out of state. What a lie, she was only 30-40 miles away.
They tried to claim that the nephews were starving her to death. One nephew lived in Wisconsin, we are in GA. The other nephew was not the caregiver, I was. They claimed this and tried to have nephew arrested for Elder Abuse and Felony Fraud claiming that we stole all of the Aunt's money. She hbad no money, we spent $145,000 taking care of her. Probate records show that she was mentally incompetent and they only gave her a guardian of property. A new will was made, all of the Estate was supposed to go to charity. A fake Minister ended up with it. By the time the Probate for the will (2 wills) hearing came up, the Estate had $24,000 out of $115,000. And guess where that money came from?
The Guardian unfroze our accounts without our knowledge by sending a Letter of Temporary Emergency Guardianship to Wachovia and claimed that the mail was at risk of being stolen and they changed the address. Problem is it was not Aunt's address the account and statements came to it was ours, becuase it was our account. I even sent a letter to Wachovia CEO trying to get help. Wachovia claims it is all in our minds.
Guardian stole alot of money. Think the DA cared?

Im sorry about your aunt. Your right the do nothing D. A. says its a civil matter. My brother never had a DPOA this was all a way to get us to court so they could place a guardian by saying they had to pull the least restrictive alternative because my brother was misusing funds and not paying the nursing home. I was my moms medical decision maker. But the nursing home violated moms and my rights. The nursing home made there own decisions and refused to acknowledge me. In fact it was the nursing home staff who started the process of guardianship by notifying the assistant court investigator whom they knew very well. All of this was to stop family from taking any action against the nursing home and its staff. No one cared about my mother they were only protecting themselves. And mom was just an income source for the guardian. I have very little faith in the human race. I have heard money is the root to all evil. It is true. I even tried to reassure these people that all I wanted was to take my mom home and take care of her. You can have all the evidence in the world and it doesnt matter. The judicial system is corrupt. There never around when you need them and always around when you dont. I am not including everyone but I believe very few exist that are honest. I will not go away I will fight the good fight.

 

[BlondiePB]

My brother never had a DPOA...

Again, Beverly, you are lying.

Because my brother had P.O.A it was only financial. The courts said it did not matter he had to do both.

When family are not appointed as guardian of their own relatives, there is something wrong with the family. Family are the first and preferred choice.

You and mceedee know that this is a civil case requiring you to hire an attorney. Both of you need to exchange your stories by email or converse on another site. This is a LEGAL site, not a site for your "pity party".

 

[mceedee]

mceedee

For anyone on this forum to assume that they know who I am you are quite presumptious.
I have not rented anything especially a place to live for over 22 years. I own TWO homes one of which is fully paid for. Can you say the same?
Are you one of these Guardians, Attorneys or Attorney Guardians of which these complaints are made about?

When joining this forum, I joined with the understanding that there are adults here. If these people want to call names and make accusations, YOU are at the wrong site not I!

 

[BlondiePB]

For anyone on this forum to assume that they know who I am you are quite presumptious.

Finding info is very easy when one leaves tracks in cyberspace.

Are you one of these Guardians, Attorneys or Attorney Guardians of which these complaints are made about?

No, no, and no.

Now, take your "pity party" elsewhere and hire an attorney for your civil suit too.

 

[mceedee]

tracks in cyberspace

BlondiePB,
If leaving tracks in cyberspace, my dear you must be the ultimate space-case! You still insist that you know who I am? You don't know Jack!

If you don't want to hear about the "pity party" go elsewhere, No one came here to hear your insults and accusations. You are probably one of these crooked attorneys that was paid and did not do their job. I spent over $60,000 on crooked attorneys. The State Bar is the place to file against the crooked attorneys and I HAVE that going on now. Turst me the State Bar investigators are not amused at what these attorneys have done.

You do not listen well and seems that you only want to start a fight with someone here. You need to find a forum that wants to hear people call names and accuse people of not trying to do things that will help them.
Seriously, maybe you should start your own forum.

People here are addressing an international problem. Perhaps when you get to the age (I guess you think that you'll never age) that someone does these things to you, you will change your tune.

Anyone really interested in discussing how we might go about trying to stop this, there are several web sites addressing this real and growing problem. Search for sites that have Certified Elder Law Attorneys and follow links from there.
As for myself, I will once again send a message to the administrator of this site and complain about the name calling and childishness that looms over this site, I will not be back. Rest assured, as far as the "cause" I WILL NOT GO AWAY, I WILL FIGHT UNTIL WE WIN!