Re-4 HKA Pattern of misconduct

[Jaybird]

What is the name of your state? Texas.
Does the Board of Corrections up-grade the RE-4 code upon appeal if the Council of Review Boards in Washington approved my up-grade. I won my case in Washington last year.

STORY**************...
I went into the USNR active in 1989 when I was 17 and was sent overseas to the country of Bahrain. I had no drinking experince with beer or spirits before the Navy.
When I was overseas:
I was in a country that allowed 18 year olds to drink. I was searved spirits on the ASU (American Support Unit) Base, and soon developed at habit for drinking.
With me legal to drink as an 18 year old, I soon found myself drinking with the older NCO's that had more exp than me.
I had a very low tolorance and was soon over my head. I went to Capt. Mast for being passed out outside the Base NCO club......that had been serving me all night. Alchol offence 1.
I was offered no Alc help from my command. I served my time in Bahrain and went to my new command in NAS Ceicl field.....I was now no longer legal to drink in FL....I was caught drinking on base at the Crows nest......Alc offence 2, I went to Capt. mast ect again no Alc. help from the second command just Non-judical-Punishment.
I went back overseas for Desert Storm and was back in countries like Egypt and Turkey that young men could drink legal.( recieve my beer ration 3 times for sea time...on USS JFK. Near beer yes but it was still beer and I was still 18 and I felt the Navy was sending me a message that Navy men drink.
When we returned I was now a drinker but still under age...got caught drinking beer provided by my LPO.... at the BEQ.
Now I had still never been offered any Alc. help...anabuse nothing ect just UCMJ.

The Capt tried for a pattern of Mis conduct but was denied by Washington because he used my 1st UCMJ from my Barhain command with the 2,3rd Mast from his command. So to get 3 UCMJ offences from one command he re-took me to mast with out me having any new offences.
He said I gave his a look of "silent insubordination" so now you have 3 mast from one command.
I wanted to fight the mast but was told I could face brig time if I lost.
So I took my OTH RE-4 HKA and lived my life.

I went to the NDRB last fall for a Review of Discharge ND05-0042 and won my case for an upgrade to General Under Honorable. The board found it odd that my neather Commands ever offered me "DAPA" nor any other opptions to help with my drinking problem. I had lived an unblimmished life for 14 years....2 degrees BA History, Masters Degree in Education ect.
I do not drink...and no arrest record out of the Navy and teach in an inner-city ISD in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

Now there is the story....yes I did drink....no one tied me down ect.
Now I would like the RE-4 changed to an RE-3 and or the HKA changed in order to join the Texas National Guard. I have sent my DD-293 to the Board of Naval Corrections with the findings of the Council of Review boards with my OTH upgrade.

I was a good kid but looking back I was what you would call a "sea lawyer" so not many of my LPO's or Officers wanted to stick up for what even they called off the record ...me getting a raw deal.....and the Tail Hook scandal.....and the Navy changing it's immage about condoning excessive drinking ect all came into play as well.....

 

[thepizzaguy]

What is the name of your state? Texas.
Does the Board of Corrections up-grade the RE-4 code upon appeal if the Council of Review Boards in Washington approved my up-grade. I won my case in Washington last year.

STORY**************...
I went into the USNR active in 1989 when I was 17 and was sent overseas to the country of Bahrain. I had no drinking experince with beer or spirits before the Navy.
When I was overseas:
I was in a country that allowed 18 year olds to drink. I was searved spirits on the ASU (American Support Unit) Base, and soon developed at habit for drinking.
With me legal to drink as an 18 year old, I soon found myself drinking with the older NCO's that had more exp than me.
I had a very low tolorance and was soon over my head. I went to Capt. Mast for being passed out outside the Base NCO club......that had been serving me all night. Alchol offence 1.
I was offered no Alc help from my command. I served my time in Bahrain and went to my new command in NAS Ceicl field.....I was now no longer legal to drink in FL....I was caught drinking on base at the Crows nest......Alc offence 2, I went to Capt. mast ect again no Alc. help from the second command just Non-judical-Punishment.
I went back overseas for Desert Storm and was back in countries like Egypt and Turkey that young men could drink legal.( recieve my beer ration 3 times for sea time...on USS JFK. Near beer yes but it was still beer and I was still 18 and I felt the Navy was sending me a message that Navy men drink.
When we returned I was now a drinker but still under age...got caught drinking beer provided by my LPO.... at the BEQ.
Now I had still never been offered any Alc. help...anabuse nothing ect just UCMJ.

The Capt tried for a pattern of Mis conduct but was denied by Washington because he used my 1st UCMJ from my Barhain command with the 2,3rd Mast from his command. So to get 3 UCMJ offences from one command he re-took me to mast with out me having any new offences.
He said I gave his a look of "silent insubordination" so now you have 3 mast from one command.
I wanted to fight the mast but was told I could face brig time if I lost.
So I took my OTH RE-4 HKA and lived my life.

I went to the NDRB last fall for a Review of Discharge ND05-0042 and won my case for an upgrade to General Under Honorable. The board found it odd that my neather Commands ever offered me "DAPA" nor any other opptions to help with my drinking problem. I had lived an unblimmished life for 14 years....2 degrees BA History, Masters Degree in Education ect.
I do not drink...and no arrest record out of the Navy and teach in an inner-city ISD in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

Now there is the story....yes I did drink....no one tied me down ect.
Now I would like the RE-4 changed to an RE-3 and or the HKA changed in order to join the Texas National Guard. I have sent my DD-293 to the Board of Naval Corrections with the findings of the Council of Review boards with my OTH upgrade.

I was a good kid but looking back I was what you would call a "sea lawyer" so not many of my LPO's or Officers wanted to stick up for what even they called off the record ...me getting a raw deal.....and the Tail Hook scandal.....and the Navy changing it's immage about condoning excessive drinking ect all came into play as well.....

Have you spoke to a recruiter yet? The way things are now you probably can get a waiver. I am impressed with the discharge upgrade. keep us informed as to how things go.

good luck

 

[Jaybird]

Re-4 HKA Pattern of misconduct.

Yes I have contacted the TX National Guard. My first contact was last July 2005 and was told to try for an up-grade.
I am going in for a meeting tommorow with my up graded DD214. I am still warry of the type of MOS I qualify for if any. The recruiters told me he can get me in but I will not hold my breath until I am signing a contract ect.
It took over 2 years writing the Congress and Rep from my area.....no help offered from ether and had to hire a $$$ lawyer.
All who read the note about my up-grade do not get your hopes up. It took me 14 years of over productivity....to help me personally live with my enternal shame of my OTH.
I got lucky and the OTH did not come up with in my public life so my motives are strickly a matter of personal HONOR.
I told the board of my wishes to serve in the TXNG or the TX State Guard so I am doing what I said I would do with my up-grade. If they say yes great....If it is no then I can live with that as well. You live with your actions from your youth and hind sight is 20-20.
If you used drugs...said you were gay....lied, cheated or stole ect**************do not even think about going to Washington. You will face 5-6 flag level officers that are never in the habit of over riding the standing orders of past officers.
I got lucky......I am the exception by far and not the rule. The cost if you were to add up all of the monitary cost is well over 50,000 for school ect**************but who can put a price on HONOR to me it has become all I have.

 

[marine]

jaybird

The Texas Army Nat Guard can (may) waive the narritive reason for an RE-4 code? I has an RE-4 GKQ1 (Serious Misconduct) and it is a 24 hour/state approved waiver. I'll be on on Wedensday. Your pattern of misconduct will cross-corelate as misconduct, as mine, and thus is waiverable.

 

[marine]

also how long? I thought you had to feild a BCNR before the DRB? I'd love my day in court? Tell me more about that? Side note: BCNR is a kangaroo court and is a waste of time in 99.9999999999999999999999999999% of situations.