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Visualscholar

Junior Member
This happened at a college in Kansas.

I was an art education major a year ago. I was doing my observation over my winter/Interterm break. It's kind of a very simplified student teaching. You go in for the month and spend each day with a teacher. You can choose to teach a lesson with the teacher or just be involved in helping with the students. You also have about 20 assignments you have to do. These range from daily journals to the schools reportcard information. Your last assignment is an evaluation from your cooperating teacher, which you (the student) don't get to see ever).

I did my month with this teacher at a middle school in Kansas. I turned in all my required assignments on time. I taught a brief class on some computer graphics (which covered her technical part of her requirements for teaching). I got involved with the students and did a lot of one on one trying to help them find different ways of approaching the art assignments. I also gave the teacher a lot of good ideas to try. I would ask here if there was anything I needed to work on here and she kept telling me to take as many math classes as I could :confused: . She asked me once what I thought about the program at my college. I said I loved it, but was concerned about the lack of training for the 'no child left behind'.

My last day there she gave me a card that wished me luck and that she enjoyed me in the class. She also told me I was a natural with the kids, had a strong artistic background, and would make a very good art teacher.

Well I forgot my evaluation. So I emailed her about it. She said she would mail it to my instructor. I would go in daily to make check t see if it came in. On the third day it did and then my instructor told me he needed to talk to me. My book (the 20 assignments) was a low A very high B alone (without the evaluation). But the evaluation dropped my grade to a D :eek: (meaning I would have to retake the class).

I could not fight this grade because I had no clue what I was fighting. :( I couldn't see the evaluation to defend my side. So I went to my advisor. Apparently I was grade 0 on 8 out of 10 things. Things that included dress, attendence, participation, etc. So I had no clue how I scored so low. I bought supplies for two students who couldn't afford them (the students were required to buy their own suplies and when I asked the teacher about it she said that was their probelm). I got two kids to actually become 'friends' after a long while of fighting. I also got two or three students to start enjoying art because I showed them a different way of approaching the projects that was better suited for their learning skills. My advisor went to talk to the instructor and see this evaluation. When I had my meeting with her she told me that she would never send another one of her students to that teacher (cooperating) for their class again.

Well, I figured I would let it go and try again the following year. Until mid Spring in the caf I was sitting with some friends and an upper level ed major. He proceeded to ask me if I was Art Ed. I said yeah. He then asked if I didn't pass the Observation. I said how would you know. He said your evaluation was used as an example in class today. :mad: Now my name was 'blacked' out, but I was never asked for permission, I was 1 of about 3 Art Ed major and the only one to fail this term, and it was of that interterm cause the instructor said it was. On top of that we're a small college.

I know that isn't my grade persay, but is it legal for the instructor to show that to another class, but can't show it to me? If so what can I do about it?
 


seniorjudge

Senior Member
Visualscholar said:
This happened at a college in Kansas.

I was an art education major a year ago. I was doing my observation over my winter/Interterm break. It's kind of a very simplified student teaching. You go in for the month and spend each day with a teacher. You can choose to teach a lesson with the teacher or just be involved in helping with the students. You also have about 20 assignments you have to do. These range from daily journals to the schools reportcard information. Your last assignment is an evaluation from your cooperating teacher, which you (the student) don't get to see ever).

I did my month with this teacher at a middle school in Kansas. I turned in all my required assignments on time. I taught a brief class on some computer graphics (which covered her technical part of her requirements for teaching). I got involved with the students and did a lot of one on one trying to help them find different ways of approaching the art assignments. I also gave the teacher a lot of good ideas to try. I would ask here if there was anything I needed to work on here and she kept telling me to take as many math classes as I could :confused: . She asked me once what I thought about the program at my college. I said I loved it, but was concerned about the lack of training for the 'no child left behind'.

My last day there she gave me a card that wished me luck and that she enjoyed me in the class. She also told me I was a natural with the kids, had a strong artistic background, and would make a very good art teacher.

Well I forgot my evaluation. So I emailed her about it. She said she would mail it to my instructor. I would go in daily to make check t see if it came in. On the third day it did and then my instructor told me he needed to talk to me. My book (the 20 assignments) was a low A very high B alone (without the evaluation). But the evaluation dropped my grade to a D :eek: (meaning I would have to retake the class).

I could not fight this grade because I had no clue what I was fighting. :( I couldn't see the evaluation to defend my side. So I went to my advisor. Apparently I was grade 0 on 8 out of 10 things. Things that included dress, attendence, participation, etc. So I had no clue how I scored so low. I bought supplies for two students who couldn't afford them (the students were required to buy their own suplies and when I asked the teacher about it she said that was their probelm). I got two kids to actually become 'friends' after a long while of fighting. I also got two or three students to start enjoying art because I showed them a different way of approaching the projects that was better suited for their learning skills. My advisor went to talk to the instructor and see this evaluation. When I had my meeting with her she told me that she would never send another one of her students to that teacher (cooperating) for their class again.

Well, I figured I would let it go and try again the following year. Until mid Spring in the caf I was sitting with some friends and an upper level ed major. He proceeded to ask me if I was Art Ed. I said yeah. He then asked if I didn't pass the Observation. I said how would you know. He said your evaluation was used as an example in class today. :mad: Now my name was 'blacked' out, but I was never asked for permission, I was 1 of about 3 Art Ed major and the only one to fail this term, and it was of that interterm cause the instructor said it was. On top of that we're a small college.

I know that isn't my grade persay, but is it legal for the instructor to show that to another class, but can't show it to me? If so what can I do about it?
What is a "grade persay"?

In any event, you did not tell us what the dollar amount of your damages are. Tell us.


...I would ask here if there was anything I needed to work on here and she kept telling me to take as many math classes as I could :confused:...

If you do not understand the relationship between mathematics and art, perhaps you might want to rethink your career choice.
 

Visualscholar

Junior Member
I understand completely the relationship between art and math (fun trying to size ceramics 12-15% shrinkage). I also understand the relationship between art and science (sodering and glazing just to name a few). Unlike many people who think art majors are just college slackers. We are required to take science and math classes as Gen Ed classes here, but I kept asking her what I could do there during my observation to better that experience. Not for my education classes.

As for damages. Isn't there something about instructors not being able to show others a student grade. I am sure I had to sign something to even allow my parents to talk to my instructors about my grades.

And if you are going to make a comment about a mistyping sorry. At least I didn't use chat speak and I used paragraphs.

As for dollar damages I have since changed my major because I do not like the instructor telling my grades to other students. This has since put me back 2 semester (which is about $15000 a semester).
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Visualscholar said:
I understand completely the relationship between art and math (fun trying to size ceramics 12-15% shrinkage). I also understand the relationship between art and science (sodering and glazing just to name a few). Unlike many people who think art majors are just college slackers. We are required to take science and math classes as Gen Ed classes here, but I kept asking her what I could do there during my observation to better that experience. Not for my education classes.

As for damages. Isn't there something about instructors not being able to show others a student grade. I am sure I had to sign something to even allow my parents to talk to my instructors about my grades.

And if you are going to make a comment about a mistyping sorry. At least I didn't use chat speak and I used paragraphs.

As for dollar damages I have since changed my major because I do not like the instructor telling my grades to other students. This has since put me back 2 semester (which is about $15000 a semester).
Those aren't damages. Prove that the ONLY reason you changed your major was because of THAT particular incident. You can't prove that.
And your grades weren't shown. No one knew they were your grades until YOU said they were. According to your own statement, all the identifying information was blacked out. You don't have a case.
 

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