Not relevant, but thought I'd throw that out there. Also, Jim, you need to stop blabbing on about innocent until proven guilty, because in traffic cases, the state meets their burden of proof when the expert witness takes the stand and testifies. That's it. It is then up to the defendant to show how or why the officer was wrong, or, another way to say this, is that the defendant must then prove their innocence. Since we all know that the expert witness is going to take the stand, it seems to me that defendant is indeed already guilty.The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to a letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state. The phrase was then quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947. This led to increased popular and political discussion of the concept.