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Uzelac

Junior Member
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? IL

I am currently an officer in the Military (19 years) and have an updated secret clearance effective September 2003.

My record is spotless except for one thing; I was charged with a DUI in November of 2004. I blew a .12 which falls in the minimum DUI category as it pertains to the state of Illinois.

I took the manditory 15 hour class and additional volenteered classes. In court, I received a 90 day court supervision; normally 180 days.

Should I apply for my TS, wait a while, do I have a chance later in life, does court supervision mean it will come off my record, what is your advise?
 


mjohnson101

Junior Member
I just went through a similar situation getting my secret with a long history of alcohol issues however they were 12 to 14 years in my past. I can give you two very important pieces of advice. If you drink right now even socially, STOP. If you drink to the point of intoxication or have since your DUI enroll yourself in an alcohol education course and or attend AA. You need a clean bill of alcohol heath from a "board certifed alcohol counselor" The final thing they will require and know is the diagnosis you recieved from the alcohol education your conviction carried. It is important you know how you were diagnosed and do everything you can to establish a strong mitigating argument. I know TS is much more indepth and they will know if you drink, how much, and with whom. Dont lie, just make all necessary adjustments a few months before you apply. If you have no pattern of alcohol abuse or criminal activity associated you should be fine.
 

seniorjudge

Senior Member
Uzelac said:
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? IL

I am currently an officer in the Military (19 years) and have an updated secret clearance effective September 2003.

My record is spotless except for one thing; I was charged with a DUI in November of 2004. I blew a .12 which falls in the minimum DUI category as it pertains to the state of Illinois.

I took the manditory 15 hour class and additional volenteered classes. In court, I received a 90 day court supervision; normally 180 days.

Should I apply for my TS, wait a while, do I have a chance later in life, does court supervision mean it will come off my record, what is your advise?

My advice is to tell the truth to the authorities.
 

gr8gatzby

Junior Member
thinking about applying for secret clearance so i did a background check on myself. 34 driving violations in my 12 year driving history. i've only a stop sign violation in the past 3 years though, and my license points are back to zero. will this be a deal killer?

the violations are a mix of DWLR/no insurance mostly, but that was several years ago.
 
OP - The investigator will be asking friends and family about your drinking habits so if you consider yourself to be a heavy drinker than you might want to hold off on going for a TS clearance. Just because you get a DUI/DWI does not mean that you will not get a clearance or lose a current clearance, but it does mean that you will be looked at closer for possible problems.

gr8gatzby - No idea for a secret clearance. Usually minor traffic tickets are not asked about in clearance paperwork, but the accumulation of so many might be a problem with you. I would just be up front about it and you should be fine, especially since you have stopped driving like Mario Andretti in the last few years :)
 
Honestly the worse thing that can happen is that you get turned down. What you should try to do is keep your current job and then get an offer for another job contingent upon you getting a clearance. Then if the clearance is rejected you at least still work at your current job...
 

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