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Selling a home that has a lien / judgement

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annointed3

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? Virgina

Hi,

My mom is looking into selling her home. Her husband (my father) passed away in October 2000. He had two other children prior to marrying my mom. When he died, he did not have a will. The 2 kids he had prior to marrying my mom sued my mom for their portion of my dad's inheritance. Well, my mom settled with them (using a lawyer) and we thought everything was okay.

Well, now when my mom goes to sell her house, she finds out there the 2 kids have hospital bills that were never paid that are somehow tied to the house as judgements or leins. Before she sells the house, the lawyer has told her that she has to pay off the judgement. He said this should have been taken care of in the settlement (she was using a different lawyer at the time), but it wasn't.

I don't think it's fair that she has to be responsible for these judgement's, but the lawyer says that there is no way around it. Do you all have any ideas?
 


BradleyS

Member
This is beyond my scope, but I would like to ask a couple of questions.......

Did the Settlement Agreement contain any language or clauses on the past, present, or future bills accrued from the kids?

Have you or your mother read the settlement agreement?
 
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seniorjudge

Guest
annointed3 said:
What is the name of your state? Virgina

Hi,

My mom is looking into selling her home. Her husband (my father) passed away in October 2000. He had two other children prior to marrying my mom. When he died, he did not have a will. The 2 kids he had prior to marrying my mom sued my mom for their portion of my dad's inheritance. Well, my mom settled with them (using a lawyer) and we thought everything was okay.

Well, now when my mom goes to sell her house, she finds out there the 2 kids have hospital bills that were never paid that are somehow tied to the house as judgements or leins. Before she sells the house, the lawyer has told her that she has to pay off the judgement. He said this should have been taken care of in the settlement (she was using a different lawyer at the time), but it wasn't.

I don't think it's fair that she has to be responsible for these judgement's, but the lawyer says that there is no way around it. Do you all have any ideas?

Any liens on the real estate must be paid off before it can be sold, unless the buyer wants to accept the place with the liens. Ask the first lawyer if these liens were supposed to be paid off as part of the settlement and if they were not, why not.
 

huk

Member
I know of no lender in the U.S. that will loan mortgage money (to the buyer) until the liens are paid.
 

annointed3

Junior Member
Hi,

Thank you all for responding. The language in the settlement agreement says nothing about them paying any bills. This is one of the reasons why she no longer deals with this lawyer. We didn't think about doing a title search prior to the settlement agreement, and the lawyer didn't either. Well, her new lawyer is going to see if the folks that the 2 kids owe money to will settle for an amount that's less than what they actually owe (without interest included). We will hope for the best. This is definetly a learning experience for both me and my mom.
 
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absconder

Guest
Something isnt adding up here. Were the kids names on the house? You stated the mother settled with the kids, was it cash? It would seem to me that the house wouldve been in your fathers name only, then the wifes or the father and the wifes at the same time...........................
 

annointed3

Junior Member
No, the kids name was not on the house. The house was in both my father and mother name. When my father died he did not have a will. By law, the kids that he had prior to marrying my mom were entilted to a certain percentage (I can't remember the exact figure) of his inheritance. No, the settlement wasn't cash. She went through a lawyer and paided them off with a cashier's check.
 
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seniorjudge

Guest
annointed3 said:
No, the kids name was not on the house. The house was in both my father and mother name. When my father died he did not have a will. By law, the kids that he had prior to marrying my mom were entilted to a certain percentage (I can't remember the exact figure) of his inheritance. No, the settlement wasn't cash. She went through a lawyer and paided them off with a cashier's check.
Virginia Intestate Succession Laws

If any part of a Virginia decedent's estate is not effectively disposed of by will, the intestate share will be distributed in the following order and manner:

1. Surviving spouse. A surviving spouse is generally first in line to get any assets from the intestate estate. However, the amount a surviving spouse is entitled to varies as follows:

* If none of decedent's children or their descendants are alive, or if all of the decedent's surviving children are also children of the surviving spouse, the surviving spouse is entitled to the entire intestate estate.
* If one or more of the decedent's surviving children are not also issue of the surviving spouse, the surviving spouse gets one-third of the intestate estate and the surviving children or their descendants get two-thirds.

2. Heirs other than surviving spouse. Any part of the intestate estate not passing to the surviving spouse as indicated above, or the entire intestate estate if there is no surviving spouse, passes in the following order to:

1. Decedent's children and their descendants
2. Decedent's father and mother or the survivor
3. Decedent's brothers and sisters and their descendants
4. If none of the above are available, than decedent's paternal kin (as a group) and maternal kin (as a group) equally split the estate and distribute it as follows:
1. First to the grandfather and grandmother or the survivor.
2. If there are none, then to the uncles and aunts, and their descendants.
3. If there are none, then to the great grandfathers or great grandfather, and great grandmothers or great grandmother.
4. If there are none, then to the brothers and sisters of the grandfathers and grandmothers, and their descendants.
5. And so on, in other cases, without end, passing to the nearest lineal ancestors, and the descendants of such ancestors.
6. If there are no paternal kin, the whole shall go to the maternal kind; and if there are no maternal kin, the whole shall go to the paternal kin. If there are neither maternal nor paternal kin, the whole shall go to the kin of the husband or wife, in the like course as if such husband or wife had died entitled to the estate.

3. Commonwealth of Virginia. If after all this there is no taker under any of the above provisions, the intestate estate passes to the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Virginia Intestate Succession Law Fun Facts

* Relatives of the half blood inherit only half so much as those of the whole blood.
* Relatives of the decedent conceived before his death but born thereafter and children resulting from assisted conception born after decedent's death who are determined to be relatives of the decedent inherit as if they had been born in the lifetime of the decedent.
* When a spouse willfully deserts or abandons the decedent and the desertion or abandonment continues until the decedent's death, the spouse who deserted is barred of all interest in the decedent's intestate estate. The same applies to a parent that deserts his or her minor or incapacitated child. The theory, quite appropriately, is that somebody who abandons his responsibilities to a person should not later get a windfall when that person dies.
* Virginia's intestate succession laws, as well as other related laws, can be found in Title 64.1 of the Code of Virginia.

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