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What is the name of your state? New York


Under a new law passed in 2012, any NYS driver who, during the 25 year look back period, has three or four alcohol- or drug-related driving convictions or incidents in any combination and, in addition, has one or more serious driving offenses during the 25 year look back period, will permanently lose his/her driving privilege in NYS.

My question is regarding the definition of a Serious Driving Offense as listed in 15 CRR-NY 132.1:

(d) Serious driving offense means:
(1) a fatal accident;
(2) a driving-related Penal Law conviction;
(3) conviction of two or more high-point driving violations, other than the violation that forms the basis for the record review under section 132.2 of this Part; or
(4) 20 or more points from any violations, other than the violation that forms the basis for the record review under section 132.2 of this Part.

Imagine this scenario: A driver has 18 lifetime points on his record BEFORE being pulled over for making an illegal left hand turn and subsequently charged with DWI. An illegal left is 3 points which would bring the driver's total points to 21 after conviction which includes DWI. The question is, is the 3 point left hand turn violation the basis that forms the record review under 132.2? The driver would not have been revoked simply for the 3 point infraction, the DWI triggered that. So it is of my opinion that the 3 point infraction IS the basis for the record review therefore should be not counted in the total for an SDO.

Does anyone have experience with this scenario?
 


quincy

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What is the name of your state? New York


Under a new law passed in 2012, any NYS driver who, during the 25 year look back period, has three or four alcohol- or drug-related driving convictions or incidents in any combination and, in addition, has one or more serious driving offenses during the 25 year look back period, will permanently lose his/her driving privilege in NYS.

My question is regarding the definition of a Serious Driving Offense as listed in 15 CRR-NY 132.1:

(d) Serious driving offense means:
(1) a fatal accident;
(2) a driving-related Penal Law conviction;
(3) conviction of two or more high-point driving violations, other than the violation that forms the basis for the record review under section 132.2 of this Part; or
(4) 20 or more points from any violations, other than the violation that forms the basis for the record review under section 132.2 of this Part.

Imagine this scenario: A driver has 18 lifetime points on his record BEFORE being pulled over for making an illegal left hand turn and subsequently charged with DWI. An illegal left is 3 points which would bring the driver's total points to 21 after conviction which includes DWI. The question is, is the 3 point left hand turn violation the basis that forms the record review under 132.2? The driver would not have been revoked simply for the 3 point infraction, the DWI triggered that. So it is of my opinion that the 3 point infraction IS the basis for the record review therefore should be not counted in the total for an SDO.

Does anyone have experience with this scenario?
You should add this to your other thread on the same issue. Thanks.

https://forum.freeadvice.com/threads/3rd-alcohol-offense-in-25-years-license-in-different-state.659701/
 

aldaron

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Does this require a new conviction to be enforced or will they enforce it with just current histories? Seems if it's just current history and you've already done your time, paid all fees and whatever isn't right at all. In FL if you move there and transfer your DL and they find 4 DUI's/major infractions in your history they automatically suspend your privilege's for life w/o any new convictions. Seems unconstitutional to me.
 

quincy

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Does this require a new conviction to be enforced or will they enforce it with just current histories? Seems if it's just current history and you've already done your time, paid all fees and whatever isn't right at all. In FL if you move there and transfer your DL and they find 4 DUI's/major infractions in your history they automatically suspend your privilege's for life w/o any new convictions. Seems unconstitutional to me.
Please see the other thread. Thanks.
 
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