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Signed a lease in hand, utilities in my name and current tentant wont leave

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sjpmom

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What is the name of your state? Colorado

BACKGROUND: Rented a house in Colorado Springs, CO from guy that lives in DC through a well know website that caters to Military the end of May with a negotiated move-in date of 6/14. When we talked the owner knew that I have to be out of my current house by the 6/14. The owner also knows that my husband is currently deployed to Iraq and I was handling everything on my own. After seeing the house, shown by a neighbor/property manage and current tenant, I agree to rent the place and signed a lease. I sent the lease back to him and all is well. On 6/11 I am advised the tenant won’t leave and a notice was served. I drive by the house and there is a notice posted on the front door. I am still concerned and call the owner. He tells me the tenant will be out and if there is a problem will pay for my storage etc. from me to hang in there. He then sent me a PDF of the signed version on our lease on 6/12. Based on his assurances I confirm my movers and contact the utilities to have them turned over to my name. The utility company informs me that they had all be shut off and I would have to pay a start up fee and that they would be turned on Friday as they do not work weekends. I think this is odd but agree to the terms. This is only the 2 house I have ever rented and figure this is a good sign and the woman has left the premises. I decided to drive by the house on 6/13 and see the woman there packing her car. I stop and ask if she needs help as she was alone with her dog and we had chatted for a bit. I spent the next 6 hours helping her pack, got her assurances she would be out by morning and gave me a key to the house so I can move in on the 14th as planned. Meanwhile, the utilities are turned back on. I go home feeling much better about things. Early Saturday morning of the 14th the neighbor/property manager calls to inform me that the tenant has left a note on his car informing him she will not be leaving and requested a court date. I went to the house, lease and key in hand, to ask what was up and she told me straight out that she had been advised she did not have to leave and that the owner had no right to lease the house to me and she was not leaving. I started to cry and she closed the door in my face.

Now, I have a moving truck pack with my stuff, no house and no idea where to go. Calls were made to my Army contact a message left and was waiting for a response. I also called the parents back home and the moms both said to put my stuff in storage and we would work out all the other details. My mom-in-law got spent the day on the internet and phone and had a house for me to rent that night. I was able to move into the new house on Sunday but had to wait until Monday for movers to get my stuff out of storage. The moms agreed the other house was no longer an option and feared for me to live there alone and I called and spoke with owner and told him I could not wait for him to remove her and agreed to break the lease.

QUESTION: I am out of pocket a little over a $1000 because of this situation. I have storage fees for 2 units, movers cost from Saturday, application fee, and 2 nights in a hotel as well as several tanks of gas on the truck I was using while running around trying to straighten this mess out. The owner of the property claims I broke the lease and therefore will not pay my storage etc. He said he would but only if I hung in there with him and honored the lease. I told him he was in breach of contract these expense incurred are a financial hardship for me and I now have to borrow money to make ends meet this month! :mad: Do I have any rights here? Is there a way I can get some of this money I spent on Saturday and Sunday back from him?
 
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FarmerJ

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I seriously doubt you could get any of it back. When a tenant fails to restore control of a unit to landlord when a LL has re rented the unit the only thing the LL can do is terminate the lease with the new tenant because they cannot deliver the unit as they promised. THE LL ideally should have never set a move in date with you until the unit was empty! BUT even at that your moving expenses are yours , you too could have decided to refuse to sign a lease on a unit that was not empty. This LLs offer to cover expenses was kind BUT it was your choice to look elsewhere for another place.
 

sjpmom

Junior Member
The thing is this guy knew he had to evict her and still entered into a lease with me and never said anything. When I signed the lease I had no idea the place was not available, if I did I would never had signed it and continued my search. I did not find out that the house may not be available until basically 2 days before the move. He also knew that I had no where to go and had to be out of my place. The moving expenses I am talking about are for Saturday to move into the storage unit. I have to pay movers again to move everything to the new house. How can it be legal for him to sign a lease and then on the day I am to move in say oh well the house is not available right now and I have to go to court to get her out so I will be a good guy and let you out of the lease. if it were the other way around and I say I can't move in today I need more time to give notice he would be after me, wouldn't he? I thought a lease was a legal contract for both of us.
 
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BL

Senior Member
The thing is this guy knew he had to evict her and still entered into a lease with me and never said anything. When I signed the lease I had no idea the place was not available, if I did I would never had signed it and continued my search. I did not find out that the house may not be available until basically 2 days before the move. He also knew that I had no where to go and had to be out of my place. The moving expenses I am talking about are for Saturday to move into the storage unit. I have to pay movers again to move everything to the new house. How can it be legal for him to sign a lease and then on the day I am to move in say oh well the house is not available right now and I have to go to court to get her out so I will be a good guy and let you out of the lease. if it were the other way around and I say I can't move in today I need more time to give notice he would be after me, wouldn't he? I thought a lease was a legal contract for both of us.
If the unit is not ready on the move in Date , you are allowed to break the lease ( the lease is voided ) .

You might be able to sue for storage because the LL misrepresented the Apt . and signed the lease .

It happens all the time , a LL will advertise rentals , thinking , or counting on the current tenants to vacate , but they do not .
 

johnd

Member
The LL is not responsible for things out of his control. He is a fool to agree compensate you for your costs associated with the current tenants. If you can substantiate that he agreed to pay your fees, you may be able to collect. Outside of that, you're sol. Unfortunate? Yes. But they happen (not too often in my neck of the woods).
 

Alaska landlord

Senior Member
If the tenant's lease was properly terminated or had given a notice that she was vacating, then you can sue the tenant for you losses.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
The LL is not responsible for things out of his control.
Congratulations - I haven't seen such a blatantly false statement in quite a while.

Of course the LL is responsible. The LL COULD have waited to rent until the unit was empty. The LL has a contract with the (new) tenant. The LL has the obligation to make sure that he provides what he is contractually required to provide (a house in this case). The tenant can recover what he is out due to the LL not performing per the contract.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
If the tenant's lease was properly terminated or had given a notice that she was vacating, then you can sue the tenant for you losses.
Nope - the new tenant has no contractual relationship with the prior tenants. The new tenant's recourse is against the person who he has a contract with, namely, the LL.
 

johnd

Member
Congratulations - I haven't seen such a blatantly false statement in quite a while.

Of course the LL is responsible. The LL COULD have waited to rent until the unit was empty. The LL has a contract with the (new) tenant. The LL has the obligation to make sure that he provides what he is contractually required to provide (a house in this case). The tenant can recover what he is out due to the LL not performing per the contract.
Ok professor: schools out. And some will wait til the cows come home. Take your head out of you backside and proffer an intelligible response. Wait to advertise, accept applications and rent UNTIL the properties are vacant? You obviously aren't in the business, so stick to what you know.

And for your info, it's not at all "such a blatantly false statement." It's entirely accurate jd.
 

johnd

Member
Nope - the new tenant has no contractual relationship with the prior tenants. The new tenant's recourse is against the person who he has a contract with, namely, the LL.

That's blatantly false! The LL has no responsibility to a new tenant (other than refunding monies) when an existing tenant refuses to leave and is under orders or agreement to do so. Shhesh. How old are you. Bad, BAD advice from Zigner. Don't listen to him. He knows not of what he writes.
 

BL

Senior Member
That's blatantly false! The LL has no responsibility to a new tenant (other than refunding monies) when an existing tenant refuses to leave and is under orders or agreement to do so. Shhesh. How old are you. Bad, BAD advice from Zigner. Don't listen to him. He knows not of what he writes.
Heads up johmd , Zinger was responding that the tenant that signed the new lease would have to go after the tenant(s) that didn't move out .

Sorry , if anyone is liable it's the LL , not the tenant that stayed .

As was pointed out .

In the City I live in , LL's advertise all the time . Available on the 1st , or 30th , or 31st , whatever it may be . You will literally see one tenant moving out , and the other's waiting to move in , or it happens within hours .

If the tenant living there happens to stay , who do you think the tenant that was given keys to to move in should seek justice from after signing a lease ?
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Nice johnd - you keep giving your stories and I'll keep handing out correct advice.

Just for kicks, though. Please tell me why you think the LL has no responsibility in this...
 

sjpmom

Junior Member
I am getting confused. Can I file a smalls claim against the guy for the money that I am that is directly related to costs incurred because I could not move it to the house on Saturday. Lets forget that he left me homeless for 2 days. Did I mention I had to take a half of day off on Monday too to straighten out this mess! I know part of me wants to get the money back that I did not have in my budget but the other part wants retribution. This guy won't even bother to get on a plane and come to CO to deal with the situation.
 
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BL

Senior Member
I thought the LL agreed to cover your cost ?

Sue the owner/LL for your cost , in the rental area .

His manager/Agent can represent him , but put the suit in both there names .

Too bad you couldn't find out why the tenant said the LL had no right to evict , but at least bring up that conversation and let them explain it to the court .
 

sjpmom

Junior Member
I thought the LL agreed to cover your cost ?
Here is the owner's response to my request that he pay expenses incurred on Saturday as he had said, I got this monday morning:

"Unfortunately, I will not be able to cover the moving and storage expenses. I made that offer in good faith assuming you would continue to rent the property. But since you requested to break the lease, I am not able to honor that request. Since the Sheriff's staff doesn't work on weekends, there was now way I could've know that they eviction will take place this Wednesday; as I was informed this morning."

I spoke with the Sherriff and Colorado Springs Police on Saturday and they told me an eviction had not been filed and therefore there was nothing they could do and told him that!

I did get a note tonight from the owner: "I have taken the utilities out of your name and have assumed the costs that were incurred under your name, to included the reconnect fee. " At least he did that much... still ticks me off he let me go ahead and start up utilities too knowing there was a problem here.
 
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