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Slanderous ex husband...maybe?

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BethM

Member
What is the name of your state? Washington

Forgive me for the length of this post. I have been divorced for 6 years. At no time during this time has my ex husband been able to let go of his anger toward me. Funny thing is, he is the one who wanted a divorce! During this time he has periodically trashed me and my reputation, made false statements pertaining to the quality with which I mother my children and has interferred with financial matters and medical matters in a way that kept my children from being able to get what they need. I will make a short list to give examples of some of the things that have been said by him about me.

1. A month after he left he went to our youngest child's school and told the principle and the child's teacher that I was a "woman who had a tendency to lose control" and to be "careful because they would more than likely have to call the police on me and if so he would be happy to testify that I was "crazy." At that time I was head of the school's art program and worked at the school part time. No damage was done because he was talking to people who were familiar with me and my character.
2. One of his support checks bounced. By the time I knew that it had bounced I was over-drawn at the bank. I notified him, he went into the bank and told the bank manager that the account I was using was his account and that I should be charged with fraud..."she is a crook and needs to go to jail." The account I was using was one we had before we got divorced and his name had been removed from it. The bank manager froze my account until an "investigation" could be done. I went 6 weeks without being able to draw from funds in that account and in the end the bank manager lost his job for not believing the written proof that I had given him. It was a huge mess!!
3. He has told his family that I was unfaithful during the marriage, that I beat him and verbally abused him and that I will not allow him to see his children. I have written proof that I have pleaded with him to visit his children more often and proof that his other allegations are false. His family chose to believe what he said and cut off my children. This caused my children great emotional harm. They have been in and out of counseling for over 4 years due to the actions of their father.
4. His latest involves my youngest son's school again. A new school in a new state and I am not well known at the school. He has not seen or talked to his children in 20 months. All of a sudden he decided she wants to be a part of their lives again. He contacted the boys and they told him to go see their therapist and they would be willing to work with him on the relationship. They are now 13 and 20. He went to the therapist, told the therapist that I beat my children, verbally abused them and refuse to allow them to see him. He then goes to the 13 year olds school and proceeds to tell them the same things plus several other unpleasant things. Personnel at the school are now a little cold and distant and my son was called into the counselor’s office to discuss the “situation at home.”

Over the years I have refused to become engaged in his antics. My thinking was that it would only ad fuel to the fire. When he starts something I focus on cleaning up the mess he leaves me with and getting on with my life. Due to the years of stress that comes with dealing with him and the damage he tries to cause I have become very ill. I was diagnosed with Post Traumatic Adrenal Exhaustion and Peptic Ulcers. My 13 year old has once again been put on anti-depressants, is suffering from migraines and lives in fear that his father is going to show up at his school again. His grades are dropping in school and he is suffering panic attacks. He is, quite literally, scared to death to go to school. My expectations of my ex husband was that he would eventually get over his anger and become a more reasonable person to deal with. Evidence points to this not happening. He has caused grave damage to not only me, but his children also. In my mind his actions constitute slander and as a result of the slander I have suffered financially and physically and so have his children. Am I right in thinking I have cause for taking legal action against my ex husband?
Thank you!
 


Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
My interpretation of your post, is that you need a serious mental health evaluation. I have read every single word of your post, and all you are doing is attempting to insult people's intelligence.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
What kind of legal action? Have you consulted an attorney? And do you have the money to pay for an attorney to sue him in what will likely be an ugly war of accusation and cross accusation?

Where will this take you? What do you hope to gain? And what will this do to the minor child?

I just don't see the point of suing him as I don't know what it will accomplish ... other than enriching a pair of lawyers.

If he is acting like an ass, then be above that and let others see him as such. if you start to behave in the same way, then the two of you will be seen together as the problem.

- Carl
 

BethM

Member
Paradise, I would be VERY interested in what you saw in my post that led you to believe that I am the one in need of serious mental health evaluation. Of course, you may be right, I am after all the one who has stood back all these years and allowed my ex husband to abuse herself and her children...that is a bit crazy.

Just so you will know though, I have had a serious mental health evaluation, so have my children. It was court ordered. He had one also and it showed that he suffers from malignant narcissism. Mine showed that I was a normal person with normal concerns over her children. I have had therapy and so have my children. I have been told that I am not the insane one, he is. He is the one who refuses therapy though no matter how many people tell him he needs help.

I'm not trying to insult anyone's intelligence. All I'm trying to do is relay what my children and I have lived with over the last 6 years. If you think that what I have relayed here is of minor consequence then I invite you to live with the same situation and then tell me how you feel.

I don't need anything except peace of mind for myself and my children and help in getting this man out of our lives in a way that does not continue to do harm. I don't think that is asking much. I do appreciate your opinion though...no matter how offensive and dismissive it might have been.

Carl,

What kind of legal action? The first thing that comes to mind is slander. I have not consulted an attorney because it is Saturday and there are none available to consult. I have known for about a week what he did as far as his actions at my son's school. Earlier today he sent an email to my son telling my son that he knew that the child was being beaten. He told the child that if he denied the beatings that he would accuse him of lieing. His exact words were, "I want you to come visit me and the first thing we are going to do is sit down and talk about why you have been lieing to me about what really goes on in that house." This child was put on anti-depressants at 8 years old, he lost 9 pounds, spent 3 years suffering from migraines, stomach ulcers, cankor sores in his mouth and was diagnosed at the University of Washington Medical Center as suffering from Somatoform disorder due to anxiety over his father's actions. This man has been out of this child's life for nearly two years. He has shown no interest at all, inspite of several people trying to get him involved. Now, all of a sudden he is interested and the world is supposed to stop on it's axis to give him what he wants. When he doesn't get what he wants he will act out. His son's are the one's who pay the biggest price when he does. I'm trying to think of something that I can do to protect my children and myself from having to suffer the consequences of this fool...putting a stop to him and his abuse because time and patience have done nothing for us.

I have the money to pay an attorney. I have emails that he has sent to me and the children over the years that the therapists say are vicious and seem to be intended to cause pain. I have 4 evaluations from 4 different doctors that were sent to my ex husband urging him to get into counseling with his children and he always refuses. I won't be making accusations, I will be stating facts. He is the one who makes accusations that cannot be back up by facts.

I don't know where it will take me or my children. I am in the thinking process at this point. My hope would be that it would empower us, give us back a sense of control over our lives that he is so fond of dropping by periodically and stealing from us. I live life constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop. I know he is out there somewhere and will eventually show up to cause problems. I'm tired of living my life that way and need to figure out a way to send him the message that he is not allowed to do the things to us that he does. Expressing that to him verbally does no good. My hopes are that a legal action might get the point across to him. It wouldn't bother me at all to make some attorney somewhere a little wealthier if it would by us the peace of mind we want.

I have been above his actions. I made a pact with my children years ago that I would not doing anything as far as their father was concerned that would cause them or me shame. I have kept that promise to them. I think to behave in the same way he does I would have to contact his family with the truth, call his friends and make accusations, go on his job and cause problems...that is the way he works. It's gotten him nowhere fast and would do the same for me.

My quandry is to find a way to solve the problem. Taking the high road has not done that and I don't consider taking legal action against someone who is making your life hell as taking the low road. Maybe I'm wrong though and only being driven by emotions over the most recent problems. Thank you for your response.
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
BethM said:
Paradise, I would be VERY interested in what you saw in my post that led you to believe that I am the one in need of serious mental health evaluation. Of course, you may be right, I am after all the one who has stood back all these years and allowed my ex husband to abuse herself and her children... <<<<<<<<<For starters

I stand behind my post..
 

BethM

Member
Of course, you may be right, I am after all the one who has stood back all these years and allowed my ex husband to abuse herself and her children... <<<<<<<<<For starters

Ahhhhh, so, we are in agreement over that part of the issue. LOL!! Now, please, explain how I have insulted your intelligence. I would think that it would be my intelligence that would be in question here, not those who read my post. I am, after all, the one who has been stupid enough to roll over and paly nice doggie for way too long.
Beth
 
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meganproser

Guest
Hey Beth, maybe you need to consult a shrink who can tell you the best way to get this guy to calm down and back off.

He sounds so unbalanced that it may not be a good idea to provoke him.

I certainly do feel sorry for you and your boys.
 

casa

Senior Member
Beth

Narcissists are extremely convincing and manipulative- When you do not agree with them or decide not to continually feed their own ego and desires, they become aggressive and hellbent on ruining you. Read up on Narcissism and you can learn how to defuse the X.

I know, I had one too. It was a problem when we were married, a major reason for the divorce and ultimately the cause of multiple custody issues. Our child's therapist has stated he is a pathological liar. We've had multiple evaluations and investigations and it's certainly disruptive to the children. Mine are too little to understand the insanity that their other parent's vindictiveness is causing- BUT the courts are not. They will not look kindly upon this behavior.

If you can afford an attorney- Hire one. Ask them if it's better to pursue terminating visitation based on the behavior, or if it would be best to file in small claims court for punitive damages. (Please see my post on this same forum about similar behavior) https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=200050

I don't know what to say about Paradise' post~ Except to reassure you that Narcissists are very charming and 'appear' very capable and competent, UNTIL you cross them. The smartest thing you did was being able to get out of the marriage! (BTW many narcissists initiate leaving and divorce, but really only want to threaten and then draw you back in- when you don't, they are upset and harbor resentment) Been there, done that and have counselor and professional reports to prove it.

Hang In There- Get a lawyer- See the advice posted to me on the same subject
 
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Momsonamission

Junior Member
I have read your post, and realize it was posted in 2004. I was checking to see if you were still a member. Obviously, several of the people who responded to your post in 2004 have never dated or married a person with narcissism. I hope if anything, you chose to the civil law suit for defamation or malicious intent. I have never been successful in proving the lies my ex-husband spread, in my son's schools, to my family and friends, malicious and frivilous actions, third party stalking, etc, however I can tell you he won custody because he was a good liar and my professional witnesses, were not allowed to testify (as per the judge). I hope you read this, I have so much in common with your original post.
 

quincy

Senior Member
Momsonamission -

If you are still having problems with your ex-husband, you can start your own thread, with your own questions. It is a lot easier for us to answer a new post than to wade through an old one. And you might want to check out the Child Custody section of this forum - the experiences you have had may help others there.
 

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