What is the name of your state? What is the name of your state? Pennsylvania
I’m trying to help my father understand why his Social Security retirement benefits are currently suspended.
A little history of his application/situation: He is 65 and under full retirement age. Applied for both retirement benefits & Medicare over the summer (1-month prior to his 65th birthday). His application was approved, and he received his first check in October (for September benefits).
At some point in October, social security mailed him a form to update/confirm his income. A few weeks later, he received a notice that his benefits were being suspended. He called them on the phone, and they kept saying that his income was over the yearly threshold of $18,960.
What I don’t understand though is that he filled out the initial application indicating that he anticipated $36,000 in 2021 (he included unemployment in this). I guess whenever he received the form in October he called and was told that unemployment doesn’t count, so he filled it out as $34,000. He also indicated that he did not anticipate making over $1,580 a month through the rest of the year.
I was under the impression that SSA has a Special Earnings Limit Rule (https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/rule.html) for situations like this. Meaning his income prior to retirement doesn’t exclude him from receiving benefits during the months he is retired.
The only issue I can see where things may have gone wrong is his first month. He said he listed date in early September for his retirement date, but things changed with his employer, and this didn’t end up occurring until later in September. He received a benefit check for September though (which gets paid-in October). This change in date would have resulted in him not being eligible for September benefits though since his earnings would have exceeded $1,580
From everything I’ve read though is that he should still be eligible for benefits in October, November, and December though. Is this correct? Since he retired in late September, he is being careful to not exceed $1,500 a month (leaving a little buffer before he hits the full $1,580).
For what it’s worth also, I helped him add up his pay stubs…his earnings should only be $30,500 for 2021 (this includes the portion he earned before retirement plus the estimated $1,500 a month after retirement).
Any help understanding why benefits are suspended are appreciated. I’m getting conflicting examples online with that Special Earnings Limit Rule, or if there isn't any such thing for a part-year retirement, with earnings prior to that date over the annual limit.
I’m trying to help my father understand why his Social Security retirement benefits are currently suspended.
A little history of his application/situation: He is 65 and under full retirement age. Applied for both retirement benefits & Medicare over the summer (1-month prior to his 65th birthday). His application was approved, and he received his first check in October (for September benefits).
At some point in October, social security mailed him a form to update/confirm his income. A few weeks later, he received a notice that his benefits were being suspended. He called them on the phone, and they kept saying that his income was over the yearly threshold of $18,960.
What I don’t understand though is that he filled out the initial application indicating that he anticipated $36,000 in 2021 (he included unemployment in this). I guess whenever he received the form in October he called and was told that unemployment doesn’t count, so he filled it out as $34,000. He also indicated that he did not anticipate making over $1,580 a month through the rest of the year.
I was under the impression that SSA has a Special Earnings Limit Rule (https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/rule.html) for situations like this. Meaning his income prior to retirement doesn’t exclude him from receiving benefits during the months he is retired.
The only issue I can see where things may have gone wrong is his first month. He said he listed date in early September for his retirement date, but things changed with his employer, and this didn’t end up occurring until later in September. He received a benefit check for September though (which gets paid-in October). This change in date would have resulted in him not being eligible for September benefits though since his earnings would have exceeded $1,580
From everything I’ve read though is that he should still be eligible for benefits in October, November, and December though. Is this correct? Since he retired in late September, he is being careful to not exceed $1,500 a month (leaving a little buffer before he hits the full $1,580).
For what it’s worth also, I helped him add up his pay stubs…his earnings should only be $30,500 for 2021 (this includes the portion he earned before retirement plus the estimated $1,500 a month after retirement).
Any help understanding why benefits are suspended are appreciated. I’m getting conflicting examples online with that Special Earnings Limit Rule, or if there isn't any such thing for a part-year retirement, with earnings prior to that date over the annual limit.