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dfluke

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? Kansas

Long story short - I got some merchandise from a small business owner and I agreed to pay off the debt by working. There may have been a receipt involved, but this was back in July 2001 and I've moved twice, so I probably don't have it. I agreed to work off the labor. I never had a contract or anything, and the agreement to work off the debt was verbal. I never signed anything. After that debt was finished, I began working for this man. I'd have to see about somehow obtaining an actual start date on like a w-9 or something, but I worked until Feb. 2002. During this time I was always paid in cash, and I never received a pay stub. Had I known more information I would have done things differently. The only check I got bounced. I realized after a while I was always asking for money, never getting it on a regular basis. I found out after employment that this person had a bad history of debt, worthless checks, etc. and had a lot of court ruled debts to pay. I never received money in 2002 for the months I worked so I filed wiht the Kansas Dept. of Labor for a non payment of wages, and was awarded that case. They couldn't find the guy, so the case was closed. I forgot about the whole miserable expeirience.

Now 2006 I received a letter from a debt collector that I owed this person, so I wrote a letter within 30 days explaining that I need proof, etc. etc. My wife calls me and informs me there is another letter with an e-mail from this person describing hand written notes etc. What handwritten notes are probably not present are any that said I was working off the debt. Since we had pretty much a verbal agreement, my chances are slim. There were 4 other employees that filed nonpayment claims, but I don't remember thier names or anything. I'm just guessing this person is finally out of jail and are looking to collect on old debts.
I don't know if the debt collection agency has the information upfront about the debt or if they are in correspondance with this person who claims I owe them money.

Either way, my opinion of this person is that they are a trickster and fraudster.

Does anyone know what I might be able to try? I've already asked about re-opening the claim for wages case just in case this person is around again.
Thanks for reading.
 


seniorjudge

Senior Member
dfluke said:
What is the name of your state? Kansas

Long story short - I got some merchandise from a small business owner and I agreed to pay off the debt by working. There may have been a receipt involved, but this was back in July 2001 and I've moved twice, so I probably don't have it. I agreed to work off the labor. I never had a contract or anything, and the agreement to work off the debt was verbal. I never signed anything. After that debt was finished, I began working for this man. I'd have to see about somehow obtaining an actual start date on like a w-9 or something, but I worked until Feb. 2002. During this time I was always paid in cash, and I never received a pay stub. Had I known more information I would have done things differently. The only check I got bounced. I realized after a while I was always asking for money, never getting it on a regular basis. I found out after employment that this person had a bad history of debt, worthless checks, etc. and had a lot of court ruled debts to pay. I never received money in 2002 for the months I worked so I filed wiht the Kansas Dept. of Labor for a non payment of wages, and was awarded that case. They couldn't find the guy, so the case was closed. I forgot about the whole miserable expeirience.

Now 2006 I received a letter from a debt collector that I owed this person, so I wrote a letter within 30 days explaining that I need proof, etc. etc. My wife calls me and informs me there is another letter with an e-mail from this person describing hand written notes etc. What handwritten notes are probably not present are any that said I was working off the debt. Since we had pretty much a verbal agreement, my chances are slim. There were 4 other employees that filed nonpayment claims, but I don't remember thier names or anything. I'm just guessing this person is finally out of jail and are looking to collect on old debts.
I don't know if the debt collection agency has the information upfront about the debt or if they are in correspondance with this person who claims I owe them money.

Either way, my opinion of this person is that they are a trickster and fraudster.

Does anyone know what I might be able to try? I've already asked about re-opening the claim for wages case just in case this person is around again.
Thanks for reading.

During this time I was always paid in cash, and I never received a pay stub. Had I known more information I would have done things differently. The only check I got bounced.

Sounds like y'all were trying to defraud the government. I doubt there is much you can do now.
 

dfluke

Junior Member
He claimed he kept records. He told me he didn't like to write checks because the bank charged him. I didn't question it. I received a W-2, which was wrong, but I filed an amended W-2 form with tax return. There was no fraudulent activity on my part. I was stating the fact I was paid in cash because otherwise I might be able to obtain a copy of a check. I wanted folks to know that wasn't a possibility.
 

Willswife

Junior Member
dfluke said:
What is the name of your state? Kansas

Long story short - I got some merchandise from a small business owner and I agreed to pay off the debt by working. There may have been a receipt involved, but this was back in July 2001 and I've moved twice, so I probably don't have it. I agreed to work off the labor. I never had a contract or anything, and the agreement to work off the debt was verbal. I never signed anything. After that debt was finished, I began working for this man. I'd have to see about somehow obtaining an actual start date on like a w-9 or something, but I worked until Feb. 2002. During this time I was always paid in cash, and I never received a pay stub. Had I known more information I would have done things differently. The only check I got bounced. I realized after a while I was always asking for money, never getting it on a regular basis. I found out after employment that this person had a bad history of debt, worthless checks, etc. and had a lot of court ruled debts to pay. I never received money in 2002 for the months I worked so I filed wiht the Kansas Dept. of Labor for a non payment of wages, and was awarded that case. They couldn't find the guy, so the case was closed. I forgot about the whole miserable expeirience.

Now 2006 I received a letter from a debt collector that I owed this person, so I wrote a letter within 30 days explaining that I need proof, etc. etc. My wife calls me and informs me there is another letter with an e-mail from this person describing hand written notes etc. What handwritten notes are probably not present are any that said I was working off the debt. Since we had pretty much a verbal agreement, my chances are slim. There were 4 other employees that filed nonpayment claims, but I don't remember thier names or anything. I'm just guessing this person is finally out of jail and are looking to collect on old debts.
I don't know if the debt collection agency has the information upfront about the debt or if they are in correspondance with this person who claims I owe them money.

Either way, my opinion of this person is that they are a trickster and fraudster.

Does anyone know what I might be able to try? I've already asked about re-opening the claim for wages case just in case this person is around again.
Thanks for reading.


I agree , doesnt sound right at all . Can't you get a background check done on him , and use that for proof ?
 

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