suspended for senior yr for bringing toy gun to school

[mbprn]

What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state?Tennessee

My son accidently brought a toy pellet gun to school (spring loaded, clear and neon green in color, unloaded but shoots plastic pellets) and was suspended for the rest of his senior year because the school determined this was a dangerous weapon and although they declined to make it a zero tolerance issue they kicked him out for the rest of his senior year. No prom, no friends, no graduation (he can receive his diploma from night school) Our appeal with the county discipline officer is Wed. next week (Jan 11, 2006). Should we hire an attorney? Our son has never been in trouble before and everyone at the school hearing agreed he had no mal intent. Help please.

Thank You

ps- my son has A.D.D, has a 504 plan and is currently under a doctor's treatment weekly and on medication

 

[notsmartmark]

Please explain the suspension. Is he not allowed on campus?

 

[Adviceco Bites!]

Please explain the suspension. Is he not allowed on campus?

No, he's allowed on campus; he just can't take any classes. So, he waits around, and walks the aisles all day long, until the bell rings after each class so he can talk to his non-ADD, smart, friends.

IAAL

 

[notsmartmark]

No, he's allowed on campus; he just can't take any classes. So, he waits around, and walks the aisles all day long, until the bell rings after each class so he can talk to his non-ADD, smart, friends.
What a Dufus question!!

The post wasn't clear if the suspension only included the prom, etc. or if it he was placed into an alternative setting.

Many students are placed into alternative settings while on suspension, i.e., the parent's statement the he could receive his diploma from night school. Students with special needs have protections for exclusion and change of placement that might come into play in this situation. The parents should most definitely seek an advocate in this situation.

I'm sorry that I didn't realize that someone who would question my question wouldn't have a lick of knowledge about special education concerns. Next time I'll draw a clearer picture so that your blood pressure will stay w/in a reasonable range.

 

[Adviceco Bites]

The post wasn't clear if the suspension only included the prom, etc. or if it he was placed into an alternative setting.

Many students are placed into alternative settings while on suspension, i.e., the parent's statement the he could receive his diploma from night school. Students with special needs have protections for exclusion and change of placement that might come into play in this situation. The parents should most definitely seek an advocate in this situation.

I'm sorry that I didn't realize that someone who would question my question wouldn't have a lick of knowledge about special education concerns. Next time I'll draw a clearer picture so that your blood pressure will stay w/in a reasonable range.

You said, "The post wasn't clear if the suspension only included the prom, etc." Really? What was "unclear"?

Apparently, you're also suffering with ADD. So, let's see if your short attention span can keep up with me, and have you answer a few easy questions.

Did the original writer say:

1. "they kicked him out for the rest of his senior year."

Yes or No​

2. "No prom, no friends, no graduation"

Yes or No​

3. "he can receive his diploma from night school"

Yes or No​

If you can maintain your "attention", and if you answered "yes" to each of the above, then PLEASE EXPLAIN what those statements MEAN to you, and explain how you could possibly ask your STUPID question.

Now, try to keep your attention on the above, and don't stray, I know how ADD people can stray from the subject. So, try real hard, okay?

IAAL

 

[notsmartmark]

Special needs -> Alternative placement = Possible trouble

Clear enough for you? I'll try to reduce the syllables to accommodate for your special needs.

 

[Adviceco Bites]

Special needs -> Alternative placement = Possible trouble

Clear enough for you? I'll try to reduce the syllables to accommodate for your special needs.

Yes, just as I thought. You have a real ADD problem. You can't maintain your stupid question with any justification, and you're unable to answer simple questions. All you're able to do is come up with psycho-babble.

I really tried to make it easy for your brain. I didn't want to "tax" you. I failed.

Your forum name speaks volumes. You really are "Not So Smart."

IAAL

 

[dallas702]

mbprn;

You shouldn't need an attorney, but there are advocates for students in cases like this. The administration apparently can't grasp the difference between reality and play, and your son (who actually has some level of excusability, unlike the admin dolts) has been caught in the zero tolerance web (even if they won't call it that). At this point you should be able to explain the situation and hope there is someone higher up with a brain that isn't bound up by miseducationese. If they are all braindead, and you really want your son "educated" by these throwbacks, by all means get a good lawyer and sue their quivering butts. Then, your son will be able to afford a good education at a private school.

 

[taxpayer]

If this kid has ADD and is stupid enough to take a gun to school how can he be smart enough to graduate? Is there a special ADD diploma? Whos gonna hire this moron? I suppose cus he has ADD and kills someone it isnt the poor boys fault****************************.face it mommy hes just a dumb kid.

 

[dallas702]

"My son accidently brought a toy pellet gun to school (spring loaded, clear and neon green in color, unloaded but shoots plastic pellets)...."

Not exactly a .357 magnum. I'd bet if they shook everyone down they'd find dozens of students with sharp pointy things that could all be considered "dangerous" weapons....even the straight "A" students. And, I don't think his ADD is an excuse. Youngsters are still in school and not considered adults precisely because they do things like this without considering or understanding the consequences. But, the school probably has the legal right to put him out on the street along with the 4 year old girl who brought the plastic "knife" in her lunch to spread her cheese because her Kindergarten class was surely in danger.