Switching Tags

[CorpAvenger]

What is the name of your state? California

I'm a 17 year old found removing UPC (tags) in Fry's Electronics from merchandises and replacing them with lower priced UPC - no damages to items or package. I then paid for the items though they were much cheaper.

I walked out of the store without paying the extra $312 that would have cost. I was stopped by security seconds after exiting the store and brought into the "back room." The security guard wrote a report and I signed.

The cops arrived and I was handcuffed and brought to the police department.
I was given a trial date and my mom picked me up. I'm expected to appear at the Pasadena Juvenile Court on 1/20/05.

I showed no restraint at all, cooperated with both the security and police, and gave everyone an easy time. The merchandise was recovered with no damages at all. I'm an A student and this crime was not premedidated (1st time stealing).

How will the court deal with my 1st offense case?

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

What is the name of your state? California

I'm a 17 year old found removing UPC (tags) in Fry's Electronics from merchandises and replacing them with lower priced UPC - no damages to items or package. I then paid for the items though they were much cheaper.

I walked out of the store without paying the extra $312 that would have cost. I was stopped by security seconds after exiting the store and brought into the "back room." The security guard wrote a report and I signed.

The cops arrived and I was handcuffed and brought to the police department.
I was given a trial date and my mom picked me up. I'm expected to appear at the Pasadena Juvenile Court on 1/20/05.

I showed no restraint at all, cooperated with both the security and police, and gave everyone an easy time. The merchandise was recovered with no damages at all. I'm an A student and this crime was not premedidated (1st time stealing).

How will the court deal with my 1st offense case?

My response:

"this crime was not premedidated"

Do you even know what that word means?

IAAL

 

[CorpAvenger]

I didn't plan to remove tags when I entered the store.

A girl my friend knew told me how to get things for cheap. I was stupid enough to listen, though, I didn't believe it could work.

A couple days later I went to Fry's Electronics to buy a few things. While in the store, after I put merchandise in the cart, I thought about trying this scheme. Thus, my stupid actions were not premedidated.


I'm also planning on pleading guilty in court.

 

[CdwJava]

You will likely have to pay court costs, fine, restitution, AND will be on probation for 2 years or more for grand theft. At least I presume they are charging you with grand theft or some other felony. You're lucky if they went the easy route and charged you with petty theft.

- Carl

 

[tabathadolley]

Thus, my stupid actions were not premedidated

I'm positive they weren't. premedidated isn't a word.

 

[CorpAvenger]

Yes, I'm being charged with petty theft - less than $500 dollars of stolen goods.

 

[CdwJava]

Yes, I'm being charged with petty theft - less than $500 dollars of stolen goods.

Actually, petty theft requires under $400 in CA.

And you are lucky ... you could have been charged with the total value of the item and not just the difference.

- Carl

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

I didn't plan to remove tags when I entered the store.

MY RESPONSE: I knew you didn't know what premeditated meant. It doesn't mean "when you entered the store". If, before you did the crime, you thought about doing it for, perhaps as little as one second, then it was premeditated. That means you planned it, and carried out the crime. Even for a moment before it occurred.



A girl my friend knew told me how to get things for cheap. I was stupid enough to listen, though, I didn't believe it could work.

MY RESPONSE: Yes, you were stupid. Did you know there were hidden cameras in the shelving? Well, now you know. And, to steal from an electronics store is really stupid. Gees, kid. They SELL that kind of technology. Didn't you think they'd also be USING it?



A couple days later I went to Fry's Electronics to buy a few things. While in the store, after I put merchandise in the cart, I thought about trying this scheme. Thus, my stupid actions were not premedidated.

MY RESPONSE: As explained above, yes your actions were premeditated, and you just admitted it - - "I thought about trying this scheme."


I'm also planning on pleading guilty in court.

MY RESPONSE: Good idea. You don't have a defense. Stupidity is not a defense.


IAAL

 

[CorpAvenger]

I didn't plan to remove tags when I entered the store.

MY RESPONSE: I knew you didn't know what premeditated meant. It doesn't mean "when you entered the store". If, before you did the crime, you thought about doing it for, perhaps as little as one second, then it was premeditated. That means you planned it, and carried out the crime. Even for a moment before it occurred.



A girl my friend knew told me how to get things for cheap. I was stupid enough to listen, though, I didn't believe it could work.

MY RESPONSE: Yes, you were stupid. Did you know there were hidden cameras in the shelving? Well, now you know. And, to steal from an electronics store is really stupid. Gees, kid. They SELL that kind of technology. Didn't you think they'd also be USING it?



A couple days later I went to Fry's Electronics to buy a few things. While in the store, after I put merchandise in the cart, I thought about trying this scheme. Thus, my stupid actions were not premedidated.

MY RESPONSE: As explained above, yes your actions were premeditated, and you just admitted it - - "I thought about trying this scheme."


I'm also planning on pleading guilty in court.

MY RESPONSE: Good idea. You don't have a defense. Stupidity is not a defense.


IAAL

Why are you trying to antagonize me? Did something crawl up your butt and lay eggs?

Have you taken notice of the title of this forum?

I'm asking for advice, not for a-holes like you to attack me with your stupid bs.

premeditated - planned; not committed in a moment of passion or mindlessness, for example, intense fervor or drunkenness, but thought out and decided on beforehand.

I didn't know that Second degree murderer's brain shuts down right before the murder.

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

Why are you trying to antagonize me? Did something crawl up your butt and lay eggs?

MY RESPONSE: Antagonize you? Hell, I'm trying to "educate" you! You didn't know what "premeditated" meant!


Have you taken notice of the title of this forum?

MY RESPONSE: Yes, have you?



I'm asking for advice, not for a-holes like you to attack me with your stupid bs.

MY RESPONSE: Yes, the expected answer of a juvenile delinquent. Is that what you're going to say to the judge, too?



premeditated - planned; not committed in a moment of passion or mindlessness, for example, intense fervor or drunkenness, but thought out and decided on beforehand.

MY RESPONSE: Very good! You actually looked up the term! Wonderful! See how it fits you? Your act was "planned", and you "decided" to do it "beforehand" - - even if it was one second "beforehand".


I didn't know that Second degree murderer's brain shuts down right before the murder.

MY RESPONSE: That's an idiotic comment. But, it's expected coming from an idiot.

Hey, remember . . . You were the one that was caught. Not me, pal.


IAAL

 

[CorpAvenger]

"That's an idiotic comment. But, it's expected coming from an idiot.

Hey, remember . . . You were the one that was caught. Not me, pal."

Funny how an old fart like yourself hasn't the intelligence to end this non-sense.

So, I, a 17 year old, will end this game of name-calling.

You're a pathetic underdog with nothing better to do than to irritate everyone in this forum.

Closed.

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

You're a pathetic underdog with nothing better to do than to irritate everyone in this forum.

Closed.


MY RESPONSE: Yes, I'm an "underdog", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. But, hey, just remember . . . You're the one going to "kiddie prison", not me. So, keep it up, jail boy!

IAAL