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edge

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What is the name of your state? WI

My teacher for some reason belives he can say almost what ever he wants and he will be unchallanged, but i do belive i do not agree with that. He makes such threats as "if you dont shut up i will rip your lips off" and "be quiet before i come over there and knock u down". I told him that he doesn't have a right to say these things to studens and that he should promptly stop (nothing like putting your foot in your mouth), and he told me that "i can say anything i want, as long as i dont carry it out"....
 


I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
edge said:
What is the name of your state? WI

My teacher for some reason belives he can say almost what ever he wants and he will be unchallanged, but i do belive i do not agree with that. He makes such threats as "if you dont shut up i will rip your lips off" and "be quiet before i come over there and knock u down". I told him that he doesn't have a right to say these things to studens and that he should promptly stop (nothing like putting your foot in your mouth), and he told me that "i can say anything i want, as long as i dont carry it out"....

My response:

You said, "but i do belive i do not agree with that." Hey, there's nothing like being indecisive!

Did you have a legal question, or did you write this to get something off your chest?

IAAL
 
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edge

Guest
I want to know if hes able to make such claims with out anything happening to him, 90% of the studends in my class shudder in fear when they here those words, am i basicly out of luck and have to put up with this, is this a issue for my district, prinspable, admin, idk , i ask what to do ?
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
edge said:
I want to know if hes able to make such claims with out anything happening to him, 90% of the studends in my class shudder in fear when they here those words, am i basicly out of luck and have to put up with this, is this a issue for my district, prinspable, admin, idk , i ask what to do ?

My response:

Actually, it's an issue for your English teacher. When you learn how to spell (after you've kept your mouth shut in class, and learn something), then come back with your problem. Until then, I'm not taking your post seriously as I'm sure you'd like.

IAAL
 
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edge

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Actually this is the best i can do, i have special needs as far as learning. And i wish you would take it seriouly, or i wouldn't waste my time if i didn't feel it was important. i dont feel anybody should have to go threw what me and my class does, to be verbally told things like that in a class room inviorment.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
edge said:
Actually this is the best i can do, i have special needs as far as learning. And i wish you would take it seriouly, or i wouldn't waste my time if i didn't feel it was important. i dont feel anybody should have to go threw what me and my class does, to be verbally told things like that in a class room inviorment.

My response:

If you want to use your "special needs" as a crutch throughout your life, then that's your business.

Learn how to spell. No one should have to endure reading your garbage.

IAAL
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
What do your parents' say? They can go to the administration of the school ... or you can. But whether the teacher is out of line or not might depend on what he i sactually saying. Chances are he would be out of policy for making threats to you ... But! Teachers in special needs classes ARE given a lot of leeway since many of the kids tend to be a little ... well ... difficult.

You might consider just listening and doing what is asked of you before you decide to interject your opinion to the teacher.

- Carl
 

angelave

Junior Member
Of course the walking dictionary can't get his head out of his ass long enough to show compassion to anyone, disregard any and all verbiage from this lonely and pathetic creature. No a teacher can not talk to you in that manner or make such threats. He should be held accountable for any and all statements that you percieve as a threat. Report him to the principal and if that doesn't work call the school board. School is hard enough without the extra pressure. Have you told your parents and what is their take on this situation?
 

skimdlt

Junior Member
Hope this may be helpful!

Can't believe this child's claim hasn't been taken seriously.

I had watched as a sixth grader was ready to take a test and was being mistreated in this same way. The teacher told him to "shut up" or she would fail him like last time. The child then said "f off" Miss. I was stunned, and flabbergasted by a child so young being reactive this way. I have learned that there is a definite interaction between teacher and child, and although child may have some dysfunction, it is non-the-less useless/pointless and even harming to reply in these fashions. In any case the teacher threw him out and he failed another test.

I pondered this issue for a few weeks, while I watched this teacher smiling, and being 'nice' to other teachers. While at the same time continuing to have demeaning tones around the children, and not smiling, not once did I see her smile. But the smiles were on with the kids, when they had open house at the school.

Calling the school board, I must say, would probably be as useless as that child having posted here (but a formal complaint would probably be necessary in any case). You can try rating teachers at http://us.ratemyteachers.com/ for schools in the United States, or at http://canada.ratemyteachers.com/ for Canadian schools.

Ask your parents and other students in your school to Advocate National databases for yearly evaluations: "Computer databases linked to the ministries or/and governments could sort most of the information. This would allow some form of evaluation of schools, teachers, and pedagogy, from the perspective of parent, child, and teacher and could also permit a National Evaluation of sorts. Evaluations will be much more realistic, ‘heard from the horse’s mouth’ so to say, with timely representations, and on a larger sample of students. These chart representations could allow for more targeted immediate interventions, both with school personnel and students, which will allow for suppleness/malleability needed throughout the year regarding the availability of the professionals needed for interventions. (http://www.geocities.com/npfsac/schools_human_rights.html)

In addition I would think about contacting the Human Rights Commission for investigations on how these complaints are being investigated.


Are schools functioning as a source for continued problems in a child's life?

a “child breaks [a] rule, the school may react by punishing him according to their regulations. There is then the possibility that certain teachers in the school will remember the child for having broken that rule. This may change the teachers’ perceptions of the child and therefore cause them to treat him differently from the other children, leading him to “get a name for himself”. This, new less tolerant behavior from the teachers may lead to the child purposely rebelling against them. The family may also be brought into the equation, either by the child complaining about the situation at home or by the school feeling it necessary to bring it to the parents’ attention. Depending on their opinions of the rule and the school, the family may choose to take a side in the matter. Which side they take will influence the view of the school and child towards them…” “We can envisage a situation where the child has taken on the mantle of being ‘difficult’ or ‘bad’. This role is then reinforced by the changed perceptions and assumptions of the school and maybe the family. This is explained through general systems theory by the concept of homeostasis. In labeling one child as ‘bad’, the school is able to hold that child up as an example to the rest of ‘how not to behave thus enabling them to maintain the status quo.” (Counseling in Schools, by Robert Bor, Jo Ebner-Landy, Shiela Gil, Chris Brace 2002, p.23)


From the book; “Teacher Quality”, Lance T. Izumi & Williamson M. Evers, 2002:

"The cumulative and residual effects of teachers on the academic progress of students are huge. (p.18) Students unfortunate enough to encounter two or more ineffective teachers in sequence show measurably retarded growth. (p.22)

In the extreme, fifth-grade students experiencing highly ineffective teachers in grades three through five scored about 50 percentile points below their peers of comparable previous achievement who were fortunate enough to experience highly effective teachers for those same grades.(6) (Jordan, Mendro, and Weerasinghe, “Teacher Effects”; William L. Sanders and June C. Rivers, “Cumulative and Residual Effects of Teachers on Future Student Academic Achievement: Research Progress Report: (Knoxville: University of Tennessee Value-Added Research and Assessment Center, 1996))

A teacher’s effect on student achievement is measurable at least four years after students have left the tutelage of that teacher.(7) (June C. Rivers-Sanders, “The Impact of Teacher Effect on Student math Competency Achievement” (Ed.D. diss., University of Tennessee, 1999); Sanders and Rivers, Cumulative and Residual Effects of Teachers.)

When a student has experienced an ineffective teacher or a series of ineffective teachers there is little evidence of a compensatory effect provided by experiencing more effective ones in later years.( (Sanders and Rivers, Cumulative and Residual Effects of Teachers)

Regardless of ethnicity, children of similar previous achievement levels tend to respond similarly to an individual teacher.(9) (Sanders and Rivers, Cumulative and Residual Effects of Teachers) "
 
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skimdlt

Junior Member
Special Needs

Regarding special needs: if you've have been, or your parents have been coerced into giving you drugs to deal with any of your behavior issues. Ask you parents to fill the following form at the Citizens Commission on Human Rights http://www.cchr.org/forms/abuse/parent/index.htm

"In 2002, the U.S. President’s Commission on Excellence in Special Education report revealed the source of a deeply troubled Special Education system: 40% of kids are being labeled with “learning disorders” and placed in Special Education programs simply because they have not been taught to read. Of the approximate $50 billion spent annually on Special Education, $29 billion was spent for children labeled with subjective and unproven mental disorders." (Citizens Commission on Human Rights, http://www.cchr.org/topics/educators/index.htm)
 

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