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phschris

Junior Member
What is the name of your state?IA

My house was recently tee peed. The used at least 90 roles because i counted all the little brown cardboard tubes. They stuffed toilet paper, a bag, and some tubes in my mail box. They wrapped toilet paper on the mail box. Also they put a little halloween decoration of three pumpkins in my yard that the faces were smashed in and the menards display tag was still on it. We got it on tape but they are wearing masks. I was wondering what laws these people broke and what the punishments would be. Also we have a good idea who did it but cannot prove it, what should I do?????
 


I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
phschris said:
What is the name of your state?IA

My house was recently tee peed. The used at least 90 roles because i counted all the little brown cardboard tubes. They stuffed toilet paper, a bag, and some tubes in my mail box. They wrapped toilet paper on the mail box. Also they put a little halloween decoration of three pumpkins in my yard that the faces were smashed in and the menards display tag was still on it. We got it on tape but they are wearing masks. I was wondering what laws these people broke and what the punishments would be. Also we have a good idea who did it but cannot prove it, what should I do?????


My response:

Since you can't prove anything, this is all mental masturbation. Give it up and move on.

IAAL
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
My response:

Assume the police were called and a report was taken. So what?

IAAL
So, they might have looked in to it and done something about it.

He asked what the crime might be, and I inquired as to what the police might have told him. Even if they couldn't ID the supects they could tell him the crimes under his state's law.

- Carl
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
CdwJava said:
So, they might have looked in to it and done something about it.

MY RESPONSE: Yeah, right . . .



He asked what the crime might be, and I inquired as to what the police might have told him.

MY RESPONSE: So what!! Without suspects, who cares? This is all mental masturbation! Okay, here you go . . . Trespass, and Malicious Mischief. Okay, now you know the crimes. So what!!


Even if they couldn't ID the supects they could tell him the crimes under his state's law.

MY RESPONSE: See above response. So what??


Oh, please, Carl. I know you're a cop, but your town can't be THAT tiny!

IAAL
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
CdwJava said:
So, they might have looked in to it and done something about it.

MY RESPONSE: Yeah, right . . .
Believe it or not, we do actually take reports of crimes that we cannot solve. Solvability is not a pre-requisite for taking the report.

And if there was the hint of possible suspects, and the officers were so inclined, they just might go talk to the possible suspects and see what they have to say. Oddly enough, we often solve this sort of rinky-dink offense by doing just that.


He asked what the crime might be, and I inquired as to what the police might have told him.

MY RESPONSE: So what!! Without suspects, who cares? This is all mental masturbation! Okay, here you go . . . Trespass, and Malicious Mischief. Okay, now you know the crimes. So what!!
See above.


Oh, please, Carl. I know you're a cop, but your town can't be THAT tiny!
I worked in two large jursidictions (three if you count my civilian employment time) and yes, we also took reports for this kind of thing - even if the victim simply woke up and found it!

If we only took reports that had a chance of being solved, our life would be a lot easier.

- Carl
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
My response:

I guess I'm jaded by living in Los Angeles. Do you know what this Dispatcher would say to a call like this? "Is someone injured? No? Okay, we'll be there - - in about 20 hours - - if at all."

You see, in large cities, unless a crime involves injury or the potential for bodily injury, you'd rarely, if at all, and only if you're lucky, see the police or sheriffs for something like this. Without suspects, this is a Civil matter.

So, I can only imagine, Carl, that you're not used to working in a city with millions of people.

IAAL
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
My response:

I guess I'm jaded by living in Los Angeles. Do you know what this Dispatcher would say to a call like this? "Is someone injured? No? Okay, we'll be there - - in about 20 hours - - if at all."

You see, in large cities, unless a crime involves injury or the potential for bodily injury, you'd rarely, if at all, and only if you're lucky, see the police or sheriffs for something like this. Without suspects, this is a Civil matter.

So, I can only imagine, Carl, that you're not used to working in a city with millions of people.

IAAL
And Carl's response to that would be (I am confident) "THANK GOD!" :D
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
My response:

Carl knows, or should know by now, that I love the man. But, sometimes, I really have to wonder if it's too much coffee or the Morphine.

There is nothing to report. Take it to Small Claims court when you find the culprits. In the meantime, use a hose.

IAAL
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
My response:

I guess I'm jaded by living in Los Angeles. Do you know what this Dispatcher would say to a call like this? "Is someone injured? No? Okay, we'll be there - - in about 20 hours - - if at all."
And that would be CRAPPY customer service, and my guess is that the Dispatcher would be disciplined. The reality may be that the department would send out a mail-in report or take a phone-in log entry, but the Dispatcher would, of course, never say that.

Of course a busy agency is not going to respond right away ... heck, even in MY agency it would be about as low a priority as you could get. However, even when I worked in a county of more than a million people and a city of 160,000 we would still document the incident, and (time permitting) would likely contact a couple of the possible miscreants. It's what we're expected to do.


You see, in large cities, unless a crime involves injury or the potential for bodily injury, you'd rarely, if at all, and only if you're lucky, see the police or sheriffs for something like this. Without suspects, this is a Civil matter.
My largest agency served a population of about 1 million and we would have either taken a phone report or dropped off a mail-in report for the person. We responded to priority calls only (my first call in field trainign was a double shooting ... and that set the stage), and even WE would have done SOMETHING ... even if it was just to document the incident in a log or the aforementioned phone or mail in report. Fortunately, the other agencies I have worked for have allowed their officers the ability to provide a higher level of service.

So, I can only imagine, Carl, that you're not used to working in a city with millions of people.
No, I'm not. I have worked in jurisdictions of almost one million, but never in one of "millions". But I do work closely (once a month, in fact) with people that DO (including LAPD and LASO) and I will be certain to inquire with them as to their response to such a low-level call. I imagine it will be much the same as my experience above, and will NOT involve telling the complainant that nobody will show for 20 hours.

Fortunately, I have managed to flee the big cities without becoming so jaded. Fleeing the urban sprawl was a conscious decision. And where I work we would almost HAVE to follow up with interviews of the alleged suspects. but, that's the price I pay to live and raise my kids in Mayberry as opposed to the concrete jungle.

- Carl
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
BelizeBreeze said:
And Carl's response to that would be (I am confident) "THANK GOD!" :D
Yep! :)

I fled urban, southern California sprawl for four seasons, trees, and mountains ... dang it!

- Carl
 

phschris

Junior Member
thanks, i guess

well... you gave me a lot of what i have already heard but i think you 2 need to get a room or something... thanks, i guess.
 

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