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Travelling to Ft. Sill w/o DFR status?

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youtaughtmetoo

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? WI

I called the DIP hotline again and they told me that they are no longer giving out DFR status. I've been AWOL since January 4th and would like to take care of this whole thing as soon as possible. Can I report directly to Ft. Sill even if they don't have my DFR packet? (They may, but they won't give me that information). The PFC I spoke with said that I could in fact do that, but he didn't have any information on what exactly would happen if I did that. My understanding is that they send you back to the unit that you went awol from if they don't have your DFR packet. In my case, I left OSUT (BCT & AIT combined) at Ft. Benning. I've been gone for almost 2 months - if they don't have my DFR packet will they still ship me back to Benning even though I've been gone for so long?

If I do decide to travel to Ft. Sill without knowing my DFR status should I hire legal counsel? I was told that this was not necessary if you've already been DFR'ed, but in this case I'm not sure.

Any help is greatly appreciated. I'm ready to own up to my decision but I just want to do it right.
 


youtaughtmetoo

Junior Member
Even if I've already been gone for two months??

Does anyone have any advice on how I might go about resolving this matter? Considering they won't answer any questions through the DIP hotline, I'm not sure what to do.

Thanks
 
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iwentawol

Guest
TX

put it this way we are all now Royally screwed because without being to know DFR status every awol is now most likely goanna get picked up!
 

ElvisG

Member
0-29 days = UA
30+ = AWOL
45-60 = Deserter

I am really not sure exactly how many days the difference between AWOL to Deserter is. But I do know that if you are gone more then 90 days (this is the norm but it may be longer) the result is that you will be considered a Deserter for sure. I would contact a local base legal office and ask.
 
A member may be declared a deserter
(1) immediately, if the facts and circumstances of the
member’s absence, without regard to the length, indicate the
member committed the offense of desertion, as defined in
reference (a), article 85; or
(2) if the member has been absent without authority for
30 consecutive days; or
(3) immediately, if member is absent without authority,
without regard to length of absence, and has gone to, or shown
intention of going to any foreign country, or remains in any
foreign country and requests or accepts any type of asylum or
residence from that country or its governmental agencies.
b. The member’s parent command is responsible for all
documentation throughout the deserter process. If a member has
been transferred, the next gaining command is considered the
parent command.
c. Members are considered to have returned to military
control when they
(1) surrender to military authorities,
(2) are delivered to military authorities,
(3) are apprehended by military authorities, or
(4) have died. A member will continue to be listed as a
deserter until Navy Personnel Command (NAVPERSCOM), Corrections
and Programs (PERS-00D1) is notified of the member’s death by
• certified death certificate based on confirmed death
by state or local investigative officials;
• Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) report
concluding member was lost at sea; or
• a coroner’s report identifying the member’s body
after death.
If the date of death precedes the date of declaration of
desertion, the parent command is responsible for determining
whether removal of the status of deserter (or unauthorized
absence (UA)) is appropriate.
d. Termination of UA is a legal term for the purpose of
criminal aspects, and will form the basis of a later charge and
specification per reference (a). Termination of UA occurs when
(1) a member surrenders to military authorities,
(2) is apprehended by military authorities,
(3) is apprehended by civil authorities on behalf of the
military authorities solely on the basis of the member’s absence
or desertion from the military, or
(4) is made available by civil authorities after an
arrest for a civil offense.

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