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encrypted512

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This is a long, long story and I need some legal advice to my questions.

Long story, I grew up in the streets, rough childhood, spent 7 years in prison.

After release, I got married, started a business, bought a house, turned my life around. Paid off the house, working 7 day weeks, had two brand new diesel trucks, brand new pairs of jet skis, boats, RV's, and lots of toys, and was living the good life. I went 13 years trouble free after prison and worked hard to rebuild my life and have the things I had.

Than life threw me a curve ball, I went through a divorce, I went through emotional abuse during the divorce, went through nights in the hospital after trying to take my life. Than I started using drugs again like I was a kid.

Before you knew it, I made some trades for a truck and brand new pair of jet skis for some drugs from a local drug dealer. And my life went south.

A year later, we mended our family back together, I found myself again, and started going back to busting my butt 7 days a week again to try and make up for what I lost.

Yet, I look back on the situation. The drug dealer took advantage of me while I was going through emotional abuse and headed down hill and he got everything I worked for for little to nothing. In the end, I feel dumb. Sure I can get it back through hard work, but I feel played.

With that said. I grew up in the streets and was taught not to snitch.

But with all the above said. I feel played and tried to even buy them back for the little he gave me and he refuses.

With that said, I don't care what anyone says. "You'll put yourself in danger, this, that by snitching."

The fact is. I train daily. I'm a professional boxer who has fought in professional events. I filed for a motion and was granted pardon to restore my rights due to not being in trouble in 13 years. I fight professional. I have my own weapons. This drug dealer knows nothing about me. And even if he did. I'm not afraid of him. He doesn't know where I stay. And if he did. I'm armed and have security systems, I go to the gun range weekly. Long story short. He's not going to win in a fight against me and I have no fears of him. So I don't need responses in regards to that.

I need responses regarding my legal concerns.

My legal questions.

1. The truck and brand new jet skis were traded to him as part of a drug deal.
2. If I went to law enforcement. Gave this mf up and got him away from my small town and got his drugs out of my small town.
3. Told law enforcement. I don't want any payment for the bust. I want my property back that was gained by him via a drug deal. They pay nothing for the tip. They sieze the property being it was obtained through drug sales. Release property to me.


My question is. If I followed through with this plan. Is there anyway it could backfire legally? Should I be concerned of law enforcement charging me with anything after admitting to being a part of the drug deal?

Let's hear it.
 


Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
The cops don't help you get your stuff back because you regret the drug deal(s) you made.
 

Mark_A

Active Member
I have some knowledge of business law, family law, and other related stuff, but not any real knowledge of criminal law, and I am not a lawyer But I would be very surprised if they gave you the stuff back, even if they promised to. They probably don't have the power to do that.
 

adjusterjack

Senior Member
My question is. If I followed through with this plan.

Don't. It's a stupid plan. You traded your stuff for drugs. Nobody did anything wrong to you. It was a stupid decision, typical of the drug addict.

Now you are turning your life around. Move forward and don't make any more stupid mistakes. Turning the drug dealer in won't get you your stuff back.

If you think he'll face you for a fight you are sorely mistaken. People like that don't do their own wet work. They hire it out and you'll never know it's coming.
 

quincy

Senior Member
This is a long, long story and I need some legal advice to my questions.

Long story, I grew up in the streets, rough childhood, spent 7 years in prison.

After release, I got married, started a business, bought a house, turned my life around. Paid off the house, working 7 day weeks, had two brand new diesel trucks, brand new pairs of jet skis, boats, RV's, and lots of toys, and was living the good life. I went 13 years trouble free after prison and worked hard to rebuild my life and have the things I had.

Than life threw me a curve ball, I went through a divorce, I went through emotional abuse during the divorce, went through nights in the hospital after trying to take my life. Than I started using drugs again like I was a kid.

Before you knew it, I made some trades for a truck and brand new pair of jet skis for some drugs from a local drug dealer. And my life went south.

A year later, we mended our family back together, I found myself again, and started going back to busting my butt 7 days a week again to try and make up for what I lost.

Yet, I look back on the situation. The drug dealer took advantage of me while I was going through emotional abuse and headed down hill and he got everything I worked for for little to nothing. In the end, I feel dumb. Sure I can get it back through hard work, but I feel played.

With that said. I grew up in the streets and was taught not to snitch.

But with all the above said. I feel played and tried to even buy them back for the little he gave me and he refuses.

With that said, I don't care what anyone says. "You'll put yourself in danger, this, that by snitching."

The fact is. I train daily. I'm a professional boxer who has fought in professional events. I filed for a motion and was granted pardon to restore my rights due to not being in trouble in 13 years. I fight professional. I have my own weapons. This drug dealer knows nothing about me. And even if he did. I'm not afraid of him. He doesn't know where I stay. And if he did. I'm armed and have security systems, I go to the gun range weekly. Long story short. He's not going to win in a fight against me and I have no fears of him. So I don't need responses in regards to that.

I need responses regarding my legal concerns.

My legal questions.

1. The truck and brand new jet skis were traded to him as part of a drug deal.
2. If I went to law enforcement. Gave this mf up and got him away from my small town and got his drugs out of my small town.
3. Told law enforcement. I don't want any payment for the bust. I want my property back that was gained by him via a drug deal. They pay nothing for the tip. They sieze the property being it was obtained through drug sales. Release property to me.


My question is. If I followed through with this plan. Is there anyway it could backfire legally? Should I be concerned of law enforcement charging me with anything after admitting to being a part of the drug deal?

Let's hear it.
What is the name of your state?

Here is a link to a July 12, 2023, article written and published by FreeAdvice staff member Mary Martin, titled “Becoming a Confidential Informant to Reduce Drug Charges:”

https://www.freeadvice.com/legal/becoming-a-confidential-informant-to-reduce-drug-charges/

There are definite risks to becoming an informant now, after your life is back on track. You have your family’s safety to think about, as well as your own. And if your goal is solely to recover your “traded” items, that is unrealistic.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
This is a long, long story and I need some legal advice to my questions.

Long story, I grew up in the streets, rough childhood, spent 7 years in prison.

After release, I got married, started a business, bought a house, turned my life around. Paid off the house, working 7 day weeks, had two brand new diesel trucks, brand new pairs of jet skis, boats, RV's, and lots of toys, and was living the good life. I went 13 years trouble free after prison and worked hard to rebuild my life and have the things I had.

Than life threw me a curve ball, I went through a divorce, I went through emotional abuse during the divorce, went through nights in the hospital after trying to take my life. Than I started using drugs again like I was a kid.

Before you knew it, I made some trades for a truck and brand new pair of jet skis for some drugs from a local drug dealer. And my life went south.

A year later, we mended our family back together, I found myself again, and started going back to busting my butt 7 days a week again to try and make up for what I lost.

Yet, I look back on the situation. The drug dealer took advantage of me while I was going through emotional abuse and headed down hill and he got everything I worked for for little to nothing. In the end, I feel dumb. Sure I can get it back through hard work, but I feel played.

With that said. I grew up in the streets and was taught not to snitch.

But with all the above said. I feel played and tried to even buy them back for the little he gave me and he refuses.

With that said, I don't care what anyone says. "You'll put yourself in danger, this, that by snitching."

The fact is. I train daily. I'm a professional boxer who has fought in professional events. I filed for a motion and was granted pardon to restore my rights due to not being in trouble in 13 years. I fight professional. I have my own weapons. This drug dealer knows nothing about me. And even if he did. I'm not afraid of him. He doesn't know where I stay. And if he did. I'm armed and have security systems, I go to the gun range weekly. Long story short. He's not going to win in a fight against me and I have no fears of him. So I don't need responses in regards to that.

I need responses regarding my legal concerns.

My legal questions.

1. The truck and brand new jet skis were traded to him as part of a drug deal.
2. If I went to law enforcement. Gave this mf up and got him away from my small town and got his drugs out of my small town.
3. Told law enforcement. I don't want any payment for the bust. I want my property back that was gained by him via a drug deal. They pay nothing for the tip. They sieze the property being it was obtained through drug sales. Release property to me.


My question is. If I followed through with this plan. Is there anyway it could backfire legally? Should I be concerned of law enforcement charging me with anything after admitting to being a part of the drug deal?

Let's hear it.
What state?
 

quincy

Senior Member
Although the state name has been requested, becoming a confidential informant will have common elements in every state.
 

zddoodah

Active Member
The answer to both of your questions is yes. You can't get reliable legal advice from anonymous strangers on the internet. Consult with a local attorney.
 

Mark_A

Active Member
If one is charged with a crime, then becoming an informant against someone else "may" in some cases enable the informant to negotiate with the district attorney or prosecutor for a plea agreement with reduced charges against the informant. If the informant's testimony is needed in court against the another person, and the informant receives a reduced charge for the testimony, that could create a problem for the prosecution because the defense is going to point out that the accuser (informant) is getting a break for testifying against the defendant, and a jury or judge may determine such testimony as having potential for bias and unreliability.

Getting property from the person you informed against, or testified in court against, would likewise need to be negotiated with the district attorney or prosecutor, but that seems like even more unlikely to happen, unless the property was stolen from you by the person your informed against. If the property was actually stolen from you, you could file a police report, but since it was an illegal drug transaction, that may not be a good idea. If you think the transaction violated any contract laws, you could file a civil suit, but not sure how will that would go for an illegal drug transaction.
 
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quincy

Senior Member
If one is charged with a crime, then becoming an informant against someone else "may" in some cases enable the informant to negotiate with the district attorney or persecutor for a plea agreement with reduced charges against the informant. If the informant's testimony is needed in court against the another person, and the informant receives a reduced charge for the testimony, that could create a problem for the prosecution because the defense is going to point out that the accuser (informant) is getting a break for testifying against the defendant, and a jury or judge may determine such testimony as having potential for bias and unreliability.

Getting property from the person you informed against, or testified in court against, would likewise need to be negotiated with the district attorney or persecutor, but that seems like even more unlikely to happen, unless the property was stolen from you by the person your informed against. If the property was actually stolen from you, you could file a police report, but since it was an illegal drug transaction, that may not be a good idea. If you think the transaction violated any contract laws, you could file a civil suit, but not sure how will that would go for an illegal drug transaction.
Prosecutor not “persecuter.”
 

commentator

Senior Member
If this poster is remotely street smart, which he doesn't sound like he is, he is still laboring under the delusions of a lot of people who are not street wise. If you "report" someone to the local cops, you do not 'get him put away, get the drugs out of my town, blah blah. Absolutely NOTHING happens just because of your approaching them.

If you report someone to the police, they listen politely. May even write your story down. Thank you very much, have a nice day. Consider who they are talking to, especially in a small town. I bet you had a history with them back in the day. They put it in the file. Probably dozens of people they've dealt with have mentioned this guy to them. They may or may not be collecting evidence against him. They won't tell you. They'll raid his place if and when they get ready, press charges against him when and if they think it's appropriate, and really they are NOT going to give you your stuff back that you sold to him during a drug transaction at some point in the past.

It's just your word against his that they were ever yours in the first place. There is a remote chance, I have seen this happen, that if, immediately after givng him your boat and your truck (by the way, what did the people you were paying for these things have to say about it? Assume you kept paying on them or they were fully paid for before you traded them off.) if you had called the local police department and reported these things stolen, you might, in the case where they did a raid on his property, get them back IF he still has them. A very remote chance.

And the total lack of awareness of how this works causes me to think this whole story may be bogus. He's NOT going to come after you so you have to fist fight with him or use all your high powered weapons on him (dream on!) because first of all, your report/snitch/story is not going to get him busted immediately. And they are NOT going to tell them who turned them in and the police are NOT going to grab up your former possessions and give them back to you. The chances of him knowing who snitched on him are just about non-existent unless you call him up and tell him, or tell everybody in town and brag about it. As I said, probably a large number, probably fifteen or twenty people have reported him as well as you. They are not going to be remotely interested in you for drug deals that you maintain happened many years ago. The scenarios you are envisioning sound like a bad action movie plot.
 
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quincy

Senior Member
Perhaps the best reasons for becoming an informant are to reduce your own criminal charges or to get a more favorable sentence. Because an informant cannot commit additional crimes when they are an informant, someone who is or was a drug user is especially vulnerable to re-offending and re-arrest.

The best thing for a former drug user to do is to avoid all other drug users.
 

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