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kalsi

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? California.

I went UA on June 14th with two other Marines from the School of Infantry (SOI). I believe the two other Marines have already turned themselves in. I'm now attempting to get a discharge from the Marine Corps.

I realize it's only a matter time until I'm caught and apprehended. So returning and turning myself in is my only option. The sooner the better. I hope to receive a discharge when I return, and one sure fire method is to fail a urinalysis test, which all UA Marines must take upon their arrival back at SOI.

All Marines under student status at SOI are discharged for failing a urinalysis test, but will this increase my legal burden? Would I be discharged anyway? Are there any other ramifications to this?
 


lvn4ever

Member
ua/awol marine

PLEASE hold on and consider what you are contemplating. Adding a second problem to the AWOL cannot possbily be in your best interest.

Watch for responses by rmetz and badapple-badapple being an atty and rmetz having a wealth of knowledge especially with questions regarding health issues. Also watch for knowledgable posts regarding DISCHARGE codes. In the future, a potential employer might give grace on an other than honorable discharge on a resume, but if they are savvy and have access to the various discharge codes, failure to pass a drug test would be the nail in the coffin.

Also consider that there IS the possibility of you being arrested by civilian authorities for purchase, possession or use of a drug.
 

badapple40

Senior Member
If you have been gone since 14 JUN, you are probably DFR'd anyways. There are posts on here to the deserter's hotline. Call them up and confirm that you are DFR'd.

Don't fail the urinalysis. That is likely to make the difference between an OTH discharge and administrative separation versus a court-martial and Bad Conduct Discharge if you pee hot.
 

kalsi

Junior Member
I thought the same. However, there are quite a few Marines who were gone UA 4 months or longer that were never discharged.

Is this the deserter hotline: 1-502-626-3711?
 

bootcampescapee

Junior Member
I've got your answer!

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Okay, I was UA Myself from the Marine Corps, But now I'm out, obviously, and I'm about to tell you how.
Well, I went UA str8 from bootcamp. But I was smart about it. I found out about it before I went UA. So I knew what I was doing. I tried calling The GI rights hotline, but as you already probably know, they knew everything about every other branch, EXCEPT the Marine corps. So basically, I got on here and tried to find out info. And alll I got was people trying to tell me that I have to turn myself in ASAP, and I was gonna go to prison, and the funniest of all, I could be executed.-yeah right!
So based on what I found out, If you go UA, you have to be UA for 6 months, then you turn yourself in. I turned myself in to Camp pendleton Ca. I just got dropped off at one of their gates with a small bag of necessities , told them I was UA. And they knew what to do. I was not arrested. And I was not sent to the Brigg. And that is because once you turn yourself in, you are no longer a "flight risk", meaning at risk of runnung. But if you get caught out in the world being UA, they will arrest you, and escort you back to a base, Then you will go to the brigg. So keep a low profile.
So, after I turned myself in, they took me to seperations Company, and put me in a barrack. Bassically, it's a cake walk, all you do all day, from 06:00-16:00 is working parties. EASY! I was there for 3 months, and you just have to stay there mon-fri, and the weekends are yours to do or go wherever. You also get paid while you're there, get to hang out and do what ever. As always thursday are feild days. And you get a meal card so you can go eat breakfast lunch and dinner in the chow hall. and get this, you get two hours for lunch. you just keep your camis on for the time you're working, then you get to change over, watch tv, listen to the radio go clubin get drunk whatever.
While I was there, I didn't have to go to working parties, because they assigned me a permanent job while I was there working for the CG. An easy job as a clerk. Believe me, time flies by so quikly when you're there. I know that all cases are different, but there were many grunts in there with me, and they weren't treated any differently. I got a general discharge. And you will probably get an OTH unless drugs are involved then it will be a bad conduct discharge. So you just bassically are waiting for the day they call you up to sign your discharge papers.
The most important thing of all, is when you talk to your lawyer, and talk to the CO, try and make it very clear you want out, or else they'll think you're sorry for doing it and think about retaining you.

If you have anymore questions, please ask.:)
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
Great! Not only are you posting the same crap everywhere, you are bringing up threads that are a year old. Give it a rest already.
 
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thepizzaguy

Guest
Shay-Pari'e said:
Great! Not only are you posting the same crap everywhere, you are bringing up threads that are a year old. Give it a rest already.
No kidding... OMG the OP on this thread wrote a total of 2 posts back in August of 2005. Get a life and stop bumping threads. Do you really think the OP is paying attention anymore?

The Marine Corp. probably sent him to Iraq armed with a butter knife and he is now a statistic.:p
 

CivilianSteve

Junior Member
Here's the deal

Here's the deal if you go UA from camp pendleton ca you are going to get DFR'd from SOI so no, you are not going to go to legal platoon in SOI you are going to main side 13 area and placed in ALPHA SEPS, the whole point and purpose of ALPHA SEPS is to discharge you. You are going to meat a lot of guys just like you who have gone UA and there are going to be Sgt who have gone UA and they're getting the boot as well. If anything, at the worst, you'll spend 30 days in the brig forfeiture of 2/3 pay and allowance, and dropped to lowest rank, that is of course you aren't a NCO, which if you bounced from SOI I wouldn't guess you are. At the least you will get Batt. NJP 1/2 pay for 2 months and loss of rank and 60 days restriction, which isn't so bad bad seeing as you get your little NJP then you go on restriction and your discharge paperwork seems to go faster as apposed to going to the brig where it is nearly impossible to get your final physical, dental, eyes, audio-gram, CO Interview, and Colonel interview. I mean really, you can't get anything done in the brig, so try and get restriction during your courts martial if you get one. Alpha Seps is alright, you go on working parties and do odd jobs, and you're still getting payed, granted you go get your audit done at IPAC. Do what they say, don't f'ing drink in the Dry barracks, you're a legal, if you drink you're going to the brig and your discharge will take longer. you're only going to be there for a month and a half, I'm sure you you can handle being on the wagon for that long. Just stay out of trouble they'll get you out of the corps and home with an OTH and a ban from all Marine Corps Installations West. So congratulations you are officially not allowed in the military ever again.
 

drzplayer08

Junior Member
in need of information civiliansteve!

im a new marine who just graduated from parris island.. i want out and i was thinking of smoking weed and pop on the piss test at Soi.. i wanted to know the consiquences of my action and would i be sent home after my discharge..explain to me the whole process . thank you
 

FlyingRon

Senior Member
You don't want to tack on to other threads that are old and only mildly related.

If you want out, breaking the law and getting kicked out is the stupid way. Not only will you be forever barred from reentering the way you are planning to get thrown out, the discharge you get will haunt you in civilian life.
 

2hd

Junior Member
Here's the deal if you go UA from camp pendleton ca you are going to get DFR'd from SOI so no, you are not going to go to legal platoon in SOI you are going to main side 13 area and placed in ALPHA SEPS, the whole point and purpose of ALPHA SEPS is to discharge you. You are going to meat a lot of guys just like you who have gone UA and there are going to be Sgt who have gone UA and they're getting the boot as well. If anything, at the worst, you'll spend 30 days in the brig forfeiture of 2/3 pay and allowance, and dropped to lowest rank, that is of course you aren't a NCO, which if you bounced from SOI I wouldn't guess you are. At the least you will get Batt. NJP 1/2 pay for 2 months and loss of rank and 60 days restriction, which isn't so bad bad seeing as you get your little NJP then you go on restriction and your discharge paperwork seems to go faster as apposed to going to the brig where it is nearly impossible to get your final physical, dental, eyes, audio-gram, CO Interview, and Colonel interview. I mean really, you can't get anything done in the brig, so try and get restriction during your courts martial if you get one. Alpha Seps is alright, you go on working parties and do odd jobs, and you're still getting payed, granted you go get your audit done at IPAC. Do what they say, don't f'ing drink in the Dry barracks, you're a legal, if you drink you're going to the brig and your discharge will take longer. you're only going to be there for a month and a half, I'm sure you you can handle being on the wagon for that long. Just stay out of trouble they'll get you out of the corps and home with an OTH and a ban from all Marine Corps Installations West. So congratulations you are officially not allowed in the military ever again.
I am going to clear something up.
You can go to legal platoon at HQBN SOI. I would not recommend going to that HQBN. Just have yourself turned over to MCB Camp Pendleton. HQBN SOI has too many problems with their legal stuff.
 

xMarineWife1989

Junior Member
Wife in distress!

My husband left his training at Fort Leonard Wood Missouri 3 weeks before he was done and getting a 10k bonus. That was 24 days ago and I know the 30 day rule. He refuses to go back, to turn himself in, or realize that he can get in trouble for this. He said that he was told to leave all of his military issued equipment and just leave in the middle of the night and everything will be ok. Well, I KNOW for a fact that it's not and I want him to turn himself in, but he won't. He REFUSES to even talk about the Marines and has done nothing except smoke pot and hang out with his friends since he's been back.
I was told to wait until the 31st day of UA to call the local police because that is when the warrant for his arrest will go through. So, I'm trying to get the police to arrest him while he's at a friend's house, hopefully not possessing any drugs, which he might be.

Is there an easier, smoother or better way to do this? Because right now this is the only option to get our life back on track. He will NOT cooperate with me whatsoever, and I think it's illegal to drug someone and drag them to a Marine base....which if I could do before the 30 days, that'd be great!

What will happen to him after they arrest him? Will he serve at local prison and at a military prison?
Can he still sign back up with the Marines? (because I want him to)
Is this going to show up on his permanent record?
I'm just at a complete loss of what to do, so any information you have is helpful right now.
 

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