university charges back the tuition award after transfer school

[dianexing]

UT
I transfered to a new university in Spring 2010. When I wanted to transfer the credits from the old university, I found out they charged me back part of my tuition award. They claimed that I signed a tuition stipulation and I should pay for it. I want to know if I don't pay my old school the tuition back, Can they sue me in future or will I have trouble to my credits history?

I was a research assistant in the old school for one semester so I got a tuition award which paid for part of my out-of-state tuition. I also got paid $1000 dollars for the research assistant job. The old school is now charging me back of the tuition. I didn't find relative words that say students who transfer to a different school need to pay back the award. One page of the contract is as following.
Program of Study Requirements:
In‐state tuition awards must be placed on the final doctoral Program of Study.
Nonresident tuition awards must be placed on the final master’s or doctoral Program of Study.
For new students that have not submitted a Program of Study, courses must meet eligibility
requirements for placement on the Program of Study when submitted. The School of Graduate
Studies will require verification that courses significantly outside the degree program and all
3000‐4990 courses will be included on the Program of Study.
Students who transfer degrees will be responsible for repaying tuition awards received that do
not meet eligibility requirements under the new degree program. For example, if a doctoral
student receives in‐state tuition awards and later transfers from a doctoral degree to a master’s
degree, the student is responsible for repaying all in‐state tuition awards since master’s credits
are not eligible for this type of tuition award. Furthermore, if credits from the old degree cannot
be placed on the new Program of Study, the student is liable for repaying any tuition awards
received for those credits.
No 1000‐2990 level courses are covered by tuition awards. Up to 3 credits of 3000‐4990 level
courses are eligible, but these courses cannot be required by the graduate‐degree department
for a related undergraduate degree. Audited courses do not qualify for tuition awards.
No more than 15 semester credits of 3000‐5990 are permissible on the Program of Study, which
includes the 3000‐4990 class if applicable, except for the MMATH degree that allows 21 credits.
Thesis Research (DEPT 6970) and other courses used in the master’s degree in a dual
master’s/doctoral program will not be covered by the in‐state tuition award, but are eligible for
the nonresident tuition award.
Courses added after the University deadline for the approval of tuition awards (Last Day to Add
Classes) are not eligible for tuition awards.
Tuition awards do not pay for any portion of a dropped course. Students will be responsible for
paying tuition on any course dropped after the 100% refund date. If a student drops a course so
that he or she no longer meets full‐time status, the student becomes ineligible for tuition
awards and will be billed full tuition for the semester.
Absolutely no courses with grades of C‐ or lower can be included on the Program of Study;
hence, they are ineligible for tuition awards. If a department requires a higher standard for a
course to be placed on the Program of Study, any course with a grade lower than that standard
will be ineligible for tuition awards. P (Pass) grades are only acceptable for seminars, special
problems, interdisciplinary workshops, thesis /dissertation research, and CGA.
Students have one year to revise incompletes (excluding thesis/dissertation credits) to letter
grades before the Graduate School seeks repayment for courses that received tuition awards.
Programs of Study must be submitted by the end of the 2nd semester for master’s degrees and
by the end of the 3rd semester for doctoral degrees unless an approved department exemption
is in place. Tuition awards will not be approved until students have submitted a Program of
Study according to these guidelines. Programs of Study that have been submitted but not
approved (e.g., Committee Form deficient) will suspend a tuition award.
Tuition awards will only pay for the minimum number of Continuing Graduate Advisement (CGA)
credits (DEPT 6990/7990) to bring a student up to full‐time status.
All CGA credits will count against a student’s tuition award limits and cannot exceed 10 credits.
Students advancing to a doctoral degree upon completing a master’s are allowed one transition
semester to receive in‐state doctoral tuition awards after holding the final defense for the
master’s degree.

 

[Zigner]

Duplicate post

 

[dianexing]

Duplicate post

I am not sure my question belongs to which category.

 

[ecmst12]

Pick one. ONE.

 

[Humusluvr]

UT
I transfered to a new university in Spring 2010. When I wanted to transfer the credits from the old university, I found out they charged me back part of my tuition award. They claimed that I signed a tuition stipulation and I should pay for it. I want to know if I don't pay my old school the tuition back, Can they sue me in future or will I have trouble to my credits history?

I was a research assistant in the old school for one semester so I got a tuition award which paid for part of my out-of-state tuition. I also got paid $1000 dollars for the research assistant job. The old school is now charging me back of the tuition. I didn't find relative words that say students who transfer to a different school need to pay back the award.

Did you sign a contract? Was it for one semester or a fill year? At my school, students sign on for a full year.

How much did they charge you back? Did your RA job cover your tuition? Are you sure they are charging you, or just charging you the taxes. I pay taxes, but not tuition, on my grad classes, and it's still a pretty chunk of change.

If you don't pay them back, it's going to hurt your credit, because they will send you to collections, and they won't release your transcripts, which will mean the semester was like you never took it.

 

[dianexing]

Did you sign a contract? Was it for one semester or a fill year? At my school, students sign on for a full year.

How much did they charge you back? Did your RA job cover your tuition? Are you sure they are charging you, or just charging you the taxes. I pay taxes, but not tuition, on my grad classes, and it's still a pretty chunk of change.

If you don't pay them back, it's going to hurt your credit, because they will send you to collections, and they won't release your transcripts, which will mean the semester was like you never took it.

The contract I signed is called "TUITION AWARD STIPULATIONS". I signed at the beginning of my master program. It doesn't say for one semester or for one year. In the contract, it says "In‐state tuition awards must be placed on the final doctoral Program of Study.". I am not sure if this is enough to charge me back the money.

My RA job paid $1000 per month and covered out-of-state tuition part. I still paid in-state tuition part. They are charging back the out-of -state tuition part now.

 

[Humusluvr]

The contract I signed is called "TUITION AWARD STIPULATIONS". I signed at the beginning of my master program. It doesn't say for one semester or for one year. In the contract, it says "In‐state tuition awards must be placed on the final doctoral Program of Study.". I am not sure if this is enough to charge me back the money.

My RA job paid $1000 per month and covered out-of-state tuition part. I still paid in-state tuition part. They are charging back the out-of -state tuition part now.

Well, that makes sense now. Since you didn't stay a year, you weren't there long enough to meet the residency requirements of the state. You HAVE TO BE a resident of the state for a FULL YEAR to meet the requirements. They were giving you the tuition at "in-state" amounts, assuming that you would stay there to finish. They can fix the residency requirements after you have completed the program, but since you didn't stay at UT, they CAN'T legally make you in-state when you were out-of-state. What state did you come to Texas from?

 

[dianexing]

Well, that makes sense now. Since you didn't stay a year, you weren't there long enough to meet the residency requirements of the state. You HAVE TO BE a resident of the state for a FULL YEAR to meet the requirements. They were giving you the tuition at "in-state" amounts, assuming that you would stay there to finish. They can fix the residency requirements after you have completed the program, but since you didn't stay at UT, they CAN'T legally make you in-state when you were out-of-state. What state did you come to Texas from?

I am still in the same state UT. My old school is in UT, my new school is also in UT. I have UT ID card now. If I let them know that, will they remove the charge?

 

[Humusluvr]

I am still in the same state UT. My old school is in UT, my new school is also in UT. I have UT ID card now. If I let them know that, will they remove the charge?

Sorry, I was thinking you were at UT (University of Texas) not UT (Utah).

What state did you go to Utah from?

HERE'S THE IMPORTANT QUESTION -

Had you been living in Utah for one year (or at least one year at the point when you left whatever school) to establish residency?

If you had been in Utah for less than one year when you signed up for classes, at the point they established the tuition, then I think you will have to pay back the out of state rate. If you had been there a year, I think you could argue you get in-state. They may ask for a lot of paperwork (my school even wanted a copy of the deed to my house, and notarized letters from my parents!) but honestly, I think you're going to have to pay it.

 

[dianexing]

Sorry, I was thinking you were at UT (University of Texas) not UT (Utah).

What state did you go to Utah from?

HERE'S THE IMPORTANT QUESTION -

Had you been living in Utah for one year (or at least one year at the point when you left whatever school) to establish residency?

If you had been in Utah for less than one year when you signed up for classes, at the point they established the tuition, then I think you will have to pay back the out of state rate. If you had been there a year, I think you could argue you get in-state. They may ask for a lot of paperwork (my school even wanted a copy of the deed to my house, and notarized letters from my parents!) but honestly, I think you're going to have to pay it.

Thanks for your reply.
When I signed the contract, I had not been in UT for one year. My biggest concern now is that if they do give the debt to the collection company or go to the court in future, will I have to pay the school back?

I don't really need the credits from the old school now, because I can pay in state tuition fee in the new school. I don't want to have to pay them the money after I graduate from the new school and don't need the old credits any more.

 

[Humusluvr]

Thanks for your reply.
When I signed the contract, I had not been in UT for one year. My biggest concern now is that if they do give the debt to the collection company or go to the court in future, will I have to pay the school back?

I don't really need the credits from the old school now, because I can pay in state tuition fee in the new school. I don't want to have to pay them the money after I graduate from the new school and don't need the old credits any more.

You didn't transfer any of the credit to the new school? You completely abandoned the old school and all the courses you took there?

 

[dianexing]

You didn't transfer any of the credit to the new school? You completely abandoned the old school and all the courses you took there?

I wanted to transfer credits to new school. But the old school didn't let me because I didn't pay them the money

 

[Humusluvr]

I wanted to transfer credits to new school. But the old school didn't let me because I didn't pay them the money

Well, pay them. It's a legitimate debt, and they will collect.