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wplck

Junior Member
Hi,

I am a tenant in a building in the city of Scranton Pennsylvania, where I've lived for a few years, and then was purchased by a new landlord.

This landlord has entered without notice or consent, and has had complaints filed against him because of it. I believe he continues entering without notice or consent.

Now he's drawn up a new lease to say we can't install locks for which he doesn't have a key. I understand the landlord needs key access for emergencies when we're not home. But a couple of us were going to install a chain or dead bolt to prevent him, like he has before, entering without knowledge while we're sleeping. This man has shown signs of violence, has made threats, and we are concerned about him doing something unbalanced.

We've caught him in numerous lies, as serious as having to do with the utilities in the building, to as bizarre as where he was born & raised - he tells different stories to each tenants, then changes the stories later.

He regularly criticizes tenants for our "housekeeping" - this is on the order of the psychopath husband in "Sleeping with the Enemy". I have been insulted and yelled at for having an unmade bed, glasses in my sink, toiletries on the counter in the bathroom, papers & books on my coffee table, and laundry hung on a drying rack in my bedroom. As far as I can see these things have absolutely no impact on the property. Now he's drawn up a new lease to include that our apartments must be kept "orderly" (in order to enforce his idea of the perfect household), and has a fine schedule of $50 for incursions. Is this legal? Can he demand our housekeeping is up to the standards he likely imposes on his stay-at-home wife?

He's clearly a chauvanist, since when he bought the building, he openly showed disgust that there were single women as tenants in the building. And since that time has, on several occasions, told me that I should get married, and made remarks about us women living alone.

He's also put in the new lease that tenants are responsible for all plumbing repairs, and any damage incurred by clogs or leaks in the plumbing. Is this legal in a lease?
He's also been trying for months now to get the tenants to pay the water/sewer bill even though the pipes are connected and the water company cannot seperate the apartments into seperate metered accounts.

I also heard that he refused to repair some type of hole in the outside of the building that's causing rain leaks into one of the apartments. When the tenant demanded he do something, he sent a repairman, who then told the tenant that he would not touch this hole as there are wet exposed electrical wires in this hole. So this hole, to my knowledge, still exists unrepaired.

I had 2 cats when this landlord purchased the building. I understood that he could not force us to remove our pets under the law. But now he's demanding more money, on top of the 2 rent increases he's already ordered, for our pets. Is this normal?
Also, in the new lease, he is demanding an extra security deposit now, for half the last month's rent. Can he tack that on at this point?

He's also demanding that we sign that we are responsible for all accidents taking place on the premisis. This is probably because he doesn't clear walkways in winter, barely does any yard work, creating a dangerous situation.

Is there any recourse I can take while I'm forced to live here until I get together the money to move and find a new apartment I can afford?

Can he really evict me if I don't agree to his unreasonable demands and sign this lease as it is? He included a letter saying if this lease isn't signed, he will evict.
(In the past, he raised the rent the day before the 1st when it was due, after checks were already in the mail.)

Oh, and he also put in the lease that if he evicts, the tenant is responsible for all court fees involved. I thought it was accepted that's the landlord's responsibility. Can he really include that in a lease?

Thank you.
 
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BL

Senior Member
Please search for your State's landlord tenant Law , and read it .

By one of these for when you are home . http://www.defensedevices.com/big-jammer-door-brace-bar.html

If he enters without notice or an emergency , call the police for trespass .

Anything written into a lease that goes against Law is unenforceable .

He has no right to dictate housekeeping , unless it causes a hazard , or it would cause damages .

On the other hand , it's reasonable for a landlord to expect normal household cleaning , and reasonable neatness .

If you paid SD , he should not be requesting additional SD.

He has a right to raise rent per laws .

Also any current lease controls until the end date .. He can not force you to sign a new one overriding your current one .
 
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Alaska landlord

Senior Member
This landlord has entered without notice or consent, and has had complaints filed against him because of it. I believe he continues entering without notice or consent.
PA does not have statutes regarding entry notice. But, you can make a case for violation of privacy.

Now he's drawn up a new lease to say we can't install locks for which he doesn't have a key. I understand the landlord needs key access for emergencies when we're not home. But a couple of us were going to install a chain or dead bolt to prevent him, like he has before, entering without knowledge while we're sleeping. This man has shown signs of violence, has made threats, and we are concerned about him doing something unbalanced.
It's his right to demand that you do not install locks. To do so is a breach of your lease agreement.
The rest is just your impression and may or may not be well founded.


We've caught him in numerous lies, as serious as having to do with the utilities in the building, to as bizarre as where he was born & raised - he tells different stories to each tenants, then changes the stories later.
Means nothing.

He regularly criticizes tenants for our "housekeeping" - this is on the order of the psychopath husband in "Sleeping with the Enemy". I have been insulted and yelled at for having an unmade bed, glasses in my sink, toiletries on the counter in the bathroom, papers & books on my coffee table, and laundry hung on a drying rack in my bedroom. As far as I can see these things have absolutely no impact on the property. Now he's drawn up a new lease to include that our apartments must be kept "orderly" (in order to enforce his idea of the perfect household), and has a fine schedule of $50 for incursions. Is this legal? Can he demand our housekeeping is up to the standards he likely imposes on his stay-at-home wife?
He can request that you keep good housekeeping practices, but it seems that he has taken it to the extreme. I would move ASAP.

He's clearly a chauvanist, since when he bought the building, he openly showed disgust that there were single women as tenants in the building. And since that time has, on several occasions, told me that I should get married, and made remarks about us women living alone.
Not against the law to be a chauvinist. Flip him off and maybe he will let you out of your lease.


He's also put in the new lease that tenants are responsible for all plumbing repairs, and any damage incurred by clogs or leaks in the plumbing. Is this legal in a lease?
He's also been trying for months now to get the tenants to pay the water/sewer bill even though the pipes are connected and the water company cannot seperate the apartments into seperate metered accounts.
Totally legal. You brake it, you pay for it. Utilities can be included in the rent or billed separately if done fairly.

I also heard that he refused to repair some type of hole in the outside of the building that's causing rain leaks into one of the apartments. When the tenant demanded he do something, he sent a repairman, who then told the tenant that he would not touch this hole as there are wet exposed electrical wires in this hole. So this hole, to my knowledge, still exists unrepaired.
This is something code compliance would be interested in.

I had 2 cats when this landlord purchased the building. I understood that he could not force us to remove our pets under the law. But now he's demanding more money, on top of the 2 rent increases he's already ordered, for our pets. Is this normal?
Also, in the new lease, he is demanding an extra security deposit now, for half the last month's rent. Can he tack that on at this point?
If you are a month to month tenant then yes it's legal. But, security deposit cannot exceed one month's rent if you have been there 2 or more years.

He's also demanding that we sign that we are responsible for all accidents taking place on the premisis. This is probably because he doesn't clear walkways in winter, barely does any yard work, creating a dangerous situation.
He can demand all he wants but you don't have to sign and PA will not enforce it. He would still be responsible for accidents that he contributed by neglect or carelessness. You too can be held liable by the injured party if you caused it. The injured party usually sues both the tenant and the LL.

Is there any recourse I can take while I'm forced to live here until I get together the money to move and find a new apartment I can afford?
Give adequate notice that you are moving and move.

Can he really evict me if I don't agree to his unreasonable demands and sign this lease as it is? He included a letter saying if this lease isn't signed, he will evict.
(In the past, he raised the rent the day before the 1st when it was due, after checks were already in the mail.)
Wouldn't that be a good thing? Yes he can give you a 30 day notice to quit and evict.

Oh, and he also put in the lease that if he evicts, the tenant is responsible for all court fees involved. I thought it was accepted that's the landlord's responsibility. Can he really include that in a lease?
Yes, but he has to win to collect.
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
If you have a term lease, he can NOT force you to accept any changes in rent, rules, etc until the term has expired. If you are month to month, he must give you 30 days notice of any changes in rent or rules. If you are month to month, I would refuse to sign the lease and move ASAP. This guy is an ass, why would you want to give him your money?

Oh also max SD in PA is 2x monthly rent. If your deposit is that much already, he can't ask for more.
 

Mr. Nice

Member
You don't need to add "unreasonable" in front of landlord. They all are.

I would follow up on a complaint of trespass with the local police department. Make sure you're clear that you are not consenting to him entering the place.
 

Alaska landlord

Senior Member
You don't need to add "unreasonable" in front of landlord. They all are.

I would follow up on a complaint of trespass with the local police department. Make sure you're clear that you are not consenting to him entering the place.
Again, there are no statutes regarding entry in PA. It is up to the applicant to negotiate entry if not covered in rental contact.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Totally legal. You brake it, you pay for it. Utilities can be included in the rent or billed separately if done fairly.
Actually AL I believe you are wrong because there is NO WAY to separate the water down fairly in this situation as there are NOT separate meters. Hence because it is for the entire building, the LL is responsible.
 

onehotmom

Member
You don't need to add "unreasonable" in front of landlord. They all are.
I would follow up on a complaint of trespass with the local police department. Make sure you're clear that you are not consenting to him entering the place.
Another disgruntled tenant.
I agree he shouldne be entering without some sort of common courtesy. I know I would probably be a little perterbed if my landlord did but you have to remember that they own the poroperty. YOU are only leasing it!

If it as bad as you say, MOVE!!
 

BL

Senior Member
Another disgruntled tenant.
I agree he shouldne be entering without some sort of common courtesy. I know I would probably be a little perterbed if my landlord did but you have to remember that they own the poroperty. YOU are only leasing it!
If it as bad as you say, MOVE!!
While leasing property tenants have rights .

Just because there is an owner , doesn't mean the LL can be a dictator outside the rights and obligations of each .
Too many LL's think they can abuse tenant's rights .
 

johnd

Member
Actually AL I believe you are wrong because there is NO WAY to separate the water down fairly in this situation as there are NOT separate meters. Hence because it is for the entire building, the LL is responsible.
Untrue. The bill could be equally divided between the number of units, or the number of tenants. That's as fair as one can get apart from separate meters.
 

Alaska landlord

Senior Member
Actually AL I believe you are wrong because there is NO WAY to separate the water down fairly in this situation as there are NOT separate meters. Hence because it is for the entire building, the LL is responsible.
Not only is it legal in PA but in Ohio as well.

(765 ILCS 740/5) (from Ch. 80, par. 355)
Sec. 5. Disclosure of utility payments included in rent.
(a) No landlord may demand payment for master metered public utility services pursuant to a lease provision providing for tenant payment of a proportionate share of public utility service without the landlord first providing the tenant with a copy in writing either as part of the lease or another written agreement of the formula used by the landlord for allocating the public utility payments among the tenants. The total of payments under the formula for the building as a whole for a billing period may not exceed the sum demanded by the public utility. The formula shall include all those that use that public utility service and may reflect variations in apartment size or usage. The landlord shall also make available to the tenant upon request a copy of the public utility bill for any billing period for which payment is demanded. Nothing herein shall preclude a landlord from leasing property to a tenant, including the cost of utilities, for a rental which does not segregate or allocate the cost of the utilities.
 

wplck

Junior Member
PA does not have statutes regarding entry notice. But, you can make a case for violation of privacy.
So there's absolutely nothing illegal about him coming in while I'm sleeping, or comes in when I'm not here and touches my food and heaven knows what? That doesn't sound right.

Means nothing.
That he lies & lies & lies speaks volumes about his character (or lack thereof). You really think a pathological liar is no danger to anyone?

Totally legal. You brake it, you pay for it. Utilities can be included in the rent or billed separately if done fairly.
He's not referring to damage done by tenants. He's referring to routine replacement of rotted pipes from years long gone by. Also, replacement of pipes that freeze because he hasn't taken any steps to insulate the pipes or advise tenants to trickle water during temperatures in the teens F.

Utilities can be included in the rent or billed separately if done fairly.
There is no fair way to divvy up the water/sewer bill without seperate meters.
If my neighbor uses 3x the water I use, and I still have to pay half the bill, how on earth would that be fair?

Furthermore, the previous landlords of this building had told us tenants that they could not legally charge tenants for the water because of the lack of seperate meters.

Here's an example of the water situation since this landlord took over the building.
Before he took over the building, I lived here for 3 years. No problems.

After this landlord bought the building, I now have half the water pressure on a regular basis. This in itself wouldn't be more than inconvenient. But here's the thing, almost every time I go to take a shower, I'm halfway through the shower, and my water shuts off because my neighbor decides to use it while I'm showering. When I say shut off, I mean the water completely stops, with maybe a few drips coming out, and I have to stand there in the shower until my neighbor decides to stop running his water. One time I was stuck in there for 20 minutes unable to rinse, shivering.
I don't know why this has been happening after this new landlord took over and not before.

This is something code compliance would be interested in.
Who is it that handles that sort of thing?

Wouldn't that be a good thing? Yes he can give you a 30 day notice to quit and evict.
It wouldn't be good if I was forced to move before finding another place to live. I'm trying to find out just how long I have before he can start the eviction process if I don't sign this new lease. (And yes, my previous lease is up.)

This guy is an ass, why would you want to give him your money?
Oh believe me I don't. Every interaction I have with this man makes me sick to my stomach. The man is toxic & unstable. I've been looking for another apartment since he bought the building. It's difficult when you have a pet. (Crappy pet owners have ruined it for the rest of us!)

You don't need to add "unreasonable" in front of landlord. They all are.
That's not true. I hope it's not even mostly true since I'm in the market for new ones! My employers are also landlords, and they seem reasonable! I've also had previous decent landlords. Unfortunately, the landlord I used to have at this building got cancer and shortly after that sold the building. They were great before that. Everything was well maintained, and we had a very respectful and cordial relationship.

I agree he shouldne be entering without some sort of common courtesy. I know I would probably be a little perterbed if my landlord did but you have to remember that they own the poroperty. YOU are only leasing it!
I'm PAYING for the service they provide. Landlords are service providers, they are not feudal lords who have the right to dictate to tenants as serfs as if we're slaves! This is a free country, isn't it?

Of course my landlord DOES think he's in some kind of feudal system. Speaks like that often. He thinks he's a real big man managing buildings for the doctors who own them. He claims to the tenants to be the owner of the building, but we don't even see his name on the property.
Believe me, I'm willing to give foreigners the benefit of the doubt if they come from another culture, like he does. And if it were just about him being a chauvanist it would be one thing - but he carries it far, and it seems connected to all his unreasonable & inappropriate behaviour.

(765 ILCS 740/5) (from Ch. 80, par. 355)
Sec. 5. Disclosure of utility payments included in rent.
(a) No landlord may demand payment for master metered public utility services pursuant to a lease provision providing for tenant payment of a proportionate share of public utility service without the landlord first providing the tenant with a copy in writing either as part of the lease or another written agreement of the formula used by the landlord for allocating the public utility payments among the tenants.
He hasn't provided any such thing. What he did was take the bill, addressed to the landlord, and hand it to some tenants, not all, and tell them they're responsible to pay it.
 

wplck

Junior Member
Please search for your State's landlord tenant Law , and read it .

By one of these for when you are home . http://www.defensedevices.com/big-jammer-door-brace-bar.html

If he enters without notice or an emergency , call the police for trespass .
I think that device would go against his rule of having "unobstructed doorways". Someone else tried to block their apartment when they're in, and he got wild with anger, completely ignoring the fact that they were in the shower when he was trying to break into their home.
 

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