• FreeAdvice has a new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, effective May 25, 2018.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our Terms of Service and use of cookies.

Upgrade RE-4

Accident - Bankruptcy - Criminal Law / DUI - Business - Consumer - Employment - Family - Immigration - Real Estate - Tax - Traffic - Wills   Please click a topic or scroll down for more.

FireBall1725

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? NY

I was discharged from active duty out of the USN with a general under honarable discharge, but i was given a RE-4. I was interested in getting back into the service, but i was told that i cannot with a RE-4. I have heard that it is possible to upgrade a RE code if you had a discharge higher than a OTH. If anyone had any information about this at all it would be great, the Navy recruters arnt very helpful, they keep transfering me in circles.

Thanks,
Tyler
 


rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
FireBall1725 said:
What is the name of your state? NY

I was discharged from active duty out of the USN with a general under honarable discharge, but i was given a RE-4. I was interested in getting back into the service, but i was told that i cannot with a RE-4. I have heard that it is possible to upgrade a RE code if you had a discharge higher than a OTH. If anyone had any information about this at all it would be great, the Navy recruters arnt very helpful, they keep transfering me in circles.

Thanks,
Tyler
How long were you in and why did you get discharged? Any history of domestic violence? Are you trying to get back in the Navy or the reserves?
 

FireBall1725

Junior Member
How long were you in and why did you get discharged? Any history of domestic violence? Are you trying to get back in the Navy or the reserves?

> I was in from 5/16/01 to 8/23/02

> I got a JFX seperation (Personality Disorder) -- i got in a few fights, didnt listen to officers, etc...

> No history of domestic violence

> And, i want to just get my foot in the door, if that means another service, or reservers, or if i can just go back active.

thanks,
Tyler
 
FireBall1725 said:
How long were you in and why did you get discharged? Any history of domestic violence? Are you trying to get back in the Navy or the reserves?

> I was in from 5/16/01 to 8/23/02

> I got a JFX seperation (Personality Disorder) -- i got in a few fights, didnt listen to officers, etc...

> No history of domestic violence

> And, i want to just get my foot in the door, if that means another service, or reservers, or if i can just go back active.

thanks,
Tyler

your best bet would probably be to go and talk to an army recruiter- it would probably easier to get into the national guard, because they are huting for people.... but your going to have to convince someone that your have changed, and that you wont be a problem/////// but if you havent changed then i wouldnt even try-- the army isnt very people friendly--- and if go have a problem with fighting, the command might turn their heads and let you get your ass kicked..ive seen more then one person with an attitude problem get stomped in the barracks, and nothing happen.. even though the first sergeant knew what happened...

good luck
 

FireBall1725

Junior Member
if i got into the army national guard, is it always possible to switch to other services, or am i stuck in the army ?
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
If you got a RE-4 for personality disorder from the Navy, there must have been a finding that you must have been at risk to harm yourself or others. In general, individuals with personality disorders can make excellent military members with some exceptions. That is the reason you got the RE-4. It is unlikely that you could get this upgraded or waived for entry into any branch or the reserves, in other worde an administrative discharge and RE-4 is pretty difficult to get. You were lucky to get the General under honorable discharge. You can contact the DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY NAVAL DISCHARGE REVIEW BOARD (NDRB) DISCHARGE REVIEW here is a link to such an application, as you can see, it was not upgraded. http://boards.law.af.mil/cgi-bin/quickview.cgi?filename=NAVY/DRB/Docketed MARINE2004/M0401350.rtf
http://boards.law.af.mil/NAVY/BCNR/CY2003/02355-03.pdf
If you were to join the national guard and or the Army, you would be facing deployment, you would not be qualified for that because of the risk you pose. If you are not able to cope in the civilian world and find employment, I suggest that you look for programs such as youth corps or state rehabilitation programs, get a college education and counseling.
 

FireBall1725

Junior Member
well, i have been able to cope in the civ world, i have a job, and i havnt got into any trouble. that was years ago, and i was a stupid teenager. Things have changed in time...
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
"I was in from 5/16/01 to 8/23/02" That was less than 3 years ago, not long in the scheme of things. What have you been doing with your life since then, staying out of trouble for a little over 2 years is the begining but a far cry from the stability required for the stress associated with military service.
 

FireBall1725

Junior Member
right after i got out, i struggled a little bit trying to get a job, but i moved to New York, and ive been working as a Network Administrator for the last year. Plus on the side i run a little computer business, hosting websites, and making them.

the thing was when i was in the military i was just plan old stupid and if something upset me i resolved it with fighting... that was how i was rasied in highschool. Believe it or not, moving on to the real world, and getting a real job i have learned that fighting isnt the way to resolve issues.

im not wanting to get in because i cannot support my self out in the world.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
If you have a good job then make a future where you are rather than trying to change the past. You can apply for an upgrade but the chances are slim for an upgrade with a RE-4. Why to you want to go to IRAQ?
 

FireBall1725

Junior Member
IRAQ will be over some day, and no i dont want to go there, ive already was on a westpac on the ship i was on in the Navy. It is something i now regret getting out of, and if i had another chance, i would retire from the military. it is something that everyone in my family has done, i feel like i have let alot of people down too.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
IRAQ is now and a real possibility if you were somehow able to reenlist, something you knew when you got your discharge. You are not the first or last to have regrets about the events in their youth. I suggest you sit down and talk with your family, while they may be disappointed with your military history, they more than likely will suggest you move forward with your life and career and become a contributing and stable member of society.
 

SDDubb

Member
Hope this helps

(BTW - That was a nice way to put it man) Hey I was in the Navy too and got an RE-4 with a General (under Hon). I was booted for some stupid stuff, (inhaling nitrous oxide - laughing gas) my fault, but also rather inflammatory on theirs and probably should have been given the benefit of the doubt and a second chance. Nevertheless, I am successful in my current job and classes, but just made rather stupid decisions that got me booted that I am REAL sorry about. Point is, I know what you mean man...getting booted is my biggest regret in life. I feel like I let people down and just feel like scum sometimes-I wish I had another chance to finish what I first said I would do when I joined. COMMITTMENT means a lot more to me now. Although Iraq is very REAL and people are dying I still feel like I know what you mean when you think you are tempted to chance it over there and join the N Guard. It seems as if its better to die now in a blaze of honor and glory, with a real chance to fix what happened before, than to live the life of freedom, paid for by others blood, knowing you didn't do your part like all the great men before you. Its a tough burden to carry...I know because it is mine too. Just to hold your head up high again seems worth risking your life, doesn't it? Whatever happens, remember there is NO dishonor in a General, regardless of what your command made you think when you were processing out, and maybe the way they characterized you with a personality disorder was just partially for their convenience and partially because of your acting out - doesn't mean it is definately true. You admitted that you were purposefully acting out to get out of the Navy...lets say you had a "forced and deliberate" personality disorder, if the euphamism helps you cope. DO NOT let that one event of getting booted set the tone for the rest of your life...evidentally God thought your talents could be better used elsewhere - so make God happy. Keep pluggin away at what your doing man, fight the good fight, and make a success of yourself regardless of what happened with the Navy. You can still serve the military and the Navy with a General as a civilian, and play a very important role. To close, my uncle always told me "Behind EVERY successful man is a string of failures." Just chalk it up to youth and having to learn somethings the hard way. At least you learned the lesson, right? (You'd be suprised, lots of adults NEVER do) You can and will be honrable and successful if you put your mind to it.
Stay up man, and walk tall "shipmate"
 
Last edited:

Find the Right Lawyer for Your Legal Issue!

Fast, Free, and Confidential
data-ad-format="auto">
Top