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Water Damage and No Homeowner's insurance

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gqemer

Guest
What is the name of your state? Illinois

I'm new and need advice. Unfortunately my girlfriend does not have homeowner's insurance in her condo. She believed she did since she thought it was included with her mortgage and of course you cannot close without proof. After the incident and calling around her auto insurance company and her mortgage company to find out who was her home owner's... we found out she had none.

Here was the situation.

I replaced her shower head and sink faucets in her bathroom. An easy job that required a how to instruction booklet. Then it was time to replace her shower knobs. I took off the cap and screws that needed to be taken out. After taking off the knob and backing... the water started gushing out. I screamed out to my girlfriend to call the building manager or whoever was in charge to shut down the water in the boiling room. Unluckily for us no one in the association knew how to shut the thing down. My girlfriend and another neighbor suggested to the president to call the fire dept and they would know what to do. The president just brushed off the suggestion and said that the HOA principal and janitor was on their way. This was 30 min after the requesting to shut down the water. After another 30 min passed by, no one has shown up. The first, second, and third floor hallway was getting some leakage due to the water from the fourth floor *our floor*. The carpets were getting soaked and the home owners underneath us were also getting water in their place. After all this my girlfriend just called the fire dept and in 5 min they shut down the water to the whole building. Even the fire dept was wondering why we didn't call them in the first place.

Once the water was completely shutdown we assessed the damage that happened in the floors below us. No walls were damaged and did not look like any bubbling. The floor below us had already taken action and started cleaning their bathroom and no damage done their. The only thing that was really damaged was the common areas. The rugs were soaked and the control box in the garage for pressure had water seep into it to cause it to short out. We had rented a rug doctor to wash her carpets that day. So we used the rug doctor to suck up all the water from each floor. We also cleaned the walls and anything affected during the leak. The next day we went downstairs to each floor to assess again. Everything looked back to normal.

My question is what can the HOA insurance company and the HOA do to us. I've already contacted the HOA and tried to compromise in helping out with the deductible or a payment plan. We've been cooperative and hope that the damages do not exceed 3000. We don't have much money and are willing to do payment plans to the HOA. I know we didn't have homeowners insurance and that's our fault but can anyone point us in the right direction and let us know our rights in this matter.

My personal opinion is that it was an accident that could of happened to anyone. I did not touch any of the pipes.. Only fixtures. The HOA took too long to shut off the valves and ignored suggestions to call the fire dept. PLEASE HELP.
 


ecmst12

Senior Member
You tried to replace bathroom fixtures without shutting off the water first? That was pretty dumb. Your gf is going to be responsible for any damage to the building. It's good that damages were small and you tooks steps to minimize them, but this isn't anyone else's fault. They don't have to accept a payment plan, but they might. Or they might sue you(well, her since it's her place). It's definitely in your best interest to pay them off as quickly as you can and hope they are willing to be flexible. And definitely get insurance as quickly as you can.
 
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gqemer

Guest
Yaa I know it was pretty dumb, but it was only the face plate and the knob. not anything to do with the piping.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
gqemer said:
Yaa I know it was pretty dumb, but it was only the face plate and the knob. not anything to do with the piping.
Apparently, you are mistaken.
 
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gqemer

Guest
Zigner said:
Apparently, you are mistaken.
Yaa I know that. I regret event thinking I was Bob Villa. Thanks ecmst12 for the bit of advice.

Can anyone else point us to the right direction of what else to do. Like I said we're not rich and if the bill comes out to an insane amount. What can we do? What rights do we have? I dragged my gf into this situation and since I'm not the owner she will get the blame. I would totally take the blame myself and take the full responsibility.

Thanks in advance for listening.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
You can offer to reimburse her for any costs she may incur due to the situation. Or, you can offer to pay for it directly.
I'm not sure if you're asking for a way out of this without paying...if that's the case, then I'm sorry to tell you that things aren't looking good. Just keep honest about this (as you have been) and keep the lines of communication open with the other parties.
 

moburkes

Senior Member
What rights does your girlfriend have? The right to pay for the damage that her guest caused. She was not required to purchase insurance for a condo. The insurance that the lender REQUIRES was purchased by the association. The insurance that she SHOULD have purchased would have been for liability in case something happened that she was liable for (like this incident), and for damage to her belongings that she brought into the condo.

And it makes no sense that you changed/repaired/fixed/exchanged anything to do with a shower without shutting off the water. I'm amazed at the story. It makes even less sense that you waited over 30 minutes to mitigate the damages.

The first thing that comes to my mind is MOLD damage, which doesn't show up right away. She is responsible for the damages. The association MAY go through their insurance carrier, but the carrier will be going after GF's assets.
 
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gqemer

Guest
Zigner said:
You can offer to reimburse her for any costs she may incur due to the situation. Or, you can offer to pay for it directly.
I'm not sure if you're asking for a way out of this without paying...if that's the case, then I'm sorry to tell you that things aren't looking good. Just keep honest about this (as you have been) and keep the lines of communication open with the other parties.
Thanks Zigner,

I'm not trying to look for a way out. Just don't want to get screwed if they want new carpeting, or new walls, etc... just an excuse for HOA to use to improve the building on my expense. I'll definitely pay any damages incurred by my fault and hopefully work out a payment plan cuz I don't have that kind of cash to pay it in full. If some insane amount like 15k to 25k. Then what am I to do?

Thanks again
 
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gqemer

Guest
moburkes said:
And it makes no sense that you changed/repaired/fixed/exchanged anything to do with a shower without shutting off the water. I'm amazed at the story. It makes even less sense that you waited over 30 minutes to mitigate the damages.
Well we requested the water to be shut immediately during the situation. No one knew how to shut it off so the water was gushing for an hour. Right after the water was turned off was when we went around to assess the damages and no longer than 15 min later we started cleaning up and using the carpet cleaner to suck up the water from the carpet.

I know it was my fault and I'm not denying that. i just don't want her dragged into it. Is their a way I can take full accountablity for it so no one goes after her?
 

outragedangel9@

Junior Member
My Goodness I didnt know people was going to be rude to others in here.it sounds like she is going thru a little like mine.I was also to be covered my agent told us we was covered he also called the house and told a friend that took his call we was covered .But when it happened they told us we wasnt .And as for reading the policy You cannot make hid or hair out of them.My new agent told us she has been a agent for 30 years and she cannot read them.I hope that you get some help somewhere God bless and hang in there
 

gawm

Senior Member
Next time you try and do a job like that you should visit this site's affiliate DoItYourself.com:D Always cheaper to hire a plumber.:cool:
 

justalayman

Senior Member
This whole situation seems a bit odd.

If you were replacing the HANDLES of the faucet, even since the water was still on and if the entire valve came out of the faucet (I know that is what you accidentally did) the water will still pour into the shower and run down the drain.

Explain how the great abundance of water escaped the confines of the shower where it would simply be drained away.

While some shower valves are recessed behind the shower wall a small distance, if the pressure was so great that you could not reinsert the valve, it would have sprayed into the shower with a minimum amount of water actually running behind the shower wall.



have you ever read the story about the little dutch boy and the dike?? He put his FINGER in the hole to plug it. A washcloth held in place or the valve that came out (since you did have up to an hour to find the pieces) would have stopped most of the flow as well. I know, now you tell me.
 

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