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What are steps to evict a commerical residence.

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blau

Member
What is the name of your state? california.

This is related to a earlier posting. I bought an apartment building. The previous owner had a lease with a laundary machine company and is not up until 2004. I wrote to the other party letters challanging the vality of the lease and gave them 20 days to response. Their 20 days is not up and they have not responded. But I need some information for decision making purposes.


Assuming this is a real property situation. And I have to evict them. I assume the lease is not valid (because if the lease is valid I cannot evict them). What are the procedures for this.

One suggestion is to assume this is not a real property situation and treat it as an abandom property one. But I think I have to. I am concern that if I disposed of the landury machine as abandom property. I will be liable for unlawful eviction.

Is there any other way I could get a legal ruling that the lease is not valid besides going to eviction court. Pratical solutions.
 


FarmerJ

Senior Member
Blau please use the original posting you made it will reduce confusion in order to find it either scroll back during the last 30 days or search on your user name to find it .
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
blau said:
What is the name of your state? california.

This is related to a earlier posting. I bought an apartment building. The previous owner had a lease with a laundary machine company and is not up until 2004. I wrote to the other party letters challanging the vality of the lease and gave them 20 days to response. Their 20 days is not up and they have not responded. But I need some information for decision making purposes.


Assuming this is a real property situation. And I have to evict them. I assume the lease is not valid (because if the lease is valid I cannot evict them). What are the procedures for this.

One suggestion is to assume this is not a real property situation and treat it as an abandom property one. But I think I have to. I am concern that if I disposed of the landury machine as abandom property. I will be liable for unlawful eviction.

Is there any other way I could get a legal ruling that the lease is not valid besides going to eviction court. Pratical solutions.

**A: your issue has nothing to do with a residential lease and is not a real property issue. It is a contract law matter.
 

blau

Member
Sorry guys here is my orginal posting copy here.

FarmerJ said:
Blau please use the original posting you made it will reduce confusion in order to find it either scroll back during the last 30 days or search on your user name to find it .

Sorry guys, here is my orginal posting copy here

What is the name of your state? California

I just purchase an 12 unit apartment. Current there are 2 washer and 2 dryer that had been lease by the previous owners. The basic lease term are 5 years with option to renew, decorating allowance $800.00. The lease was signed in 1989 there is a renew clause in it (i will go into detail later)

What I want to do is to install my own laundary equipment? I have informed the leasing company of my intent after the close of the building. They then informed me that they have a lease with me. The lease of course was sign by the previous owners.

I wrote a letter to them objecting to their lease by the following way. (I wrote in little more detail to them but there is the jist of it)

1. I said the lease was with the previous owner. I did not agree to assumed the leasse. The lease was not recorded to title/or closing documentations. It is up to them to prove the validity of the lease.

2. The lease was sign by the previous owners' property manager. I ask them to show that the property manager have the authority to sign for the owners at the time.

3. The term of the lease is as follows

"This lease shall be automatically renewed for a period equivalent to the initial term herin set fourth, unless Lessee shall give Lessor written notice of its intentions not to renew at lease 90 days prior to the end of the orginal term of this Lease. At the expiration of the additional period in accordance with the provisions hereof, this lease shall then continue for successive terms unless terminated by notice within a successive term by either Lessee or Lossor. All notice hereunder shall be in writing by United State Registered or Certified Mail, sent within 90 days prior to the end of any subsequent term herin. Thime shall be of the essence for the termination notice. "

My claim here is even if I am bounded by this lease this lease still allows me to terminate the lease at this point.

1. The lease was written by them. So any ambiguity shall be construde against them.
2. The company use specific language to distinguished the orginal term (meaning the first term), the additional period (meaning the 2nd term), and successive term meaning (period of time after the 2nd term).

I claim we are in the sucessive term (or after the additional term)which we are. And it saids above that "At the expiration of the addition period in accordance with the provisions herof, this Lease shall then continue for succive terms unless termined by notice within a successive term by either Lessor or Lessor." I also claim this sentance can be construde as. If we are after the additional period we can "terminate" the lease by giving notice.

Folks, the argument is not what you think the intent of the terms is but if the paragraph can be interperated by a resonable person as I have suggested.

Another point on the language of the sentance. If I say something like.

The President of the United State shall remain in office until the end of his term unless impeached and convicted within the provisions of the constitution of the United State. Most resonable person will have the interpation that president if impeached and convicted within the provision of the constitution of the United States will NOT stay in office until the end of this term.

What do you folks think about my approach with this is there other area where I could attack. Is there areas of my approch I shoudl concentrate at? Is there things I should look out for.

Aslo, I told them in the letter them that they have 20 days to response or else I will take their silent as agreement to these statements of facts and/ or conclusion make.

Also if they don't response in 20 days. Could assumed that they don't have a lease with me a disconnect the washer and dryers and put in my own.

blau
 

blau

Member
Re: Re: What are steps to evict a commerical residence.

**A: your issue has nothing to do with a residential lease and is not a real property issue. It is a contract law matter. [/B][/QUOTE]


On the contract it said that "it is the intend of the parties that this agreement is a lease of real property..." So doesn't this make it a lease of real property??

blau
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
Re: Re: Re: What are steps to evict a commerical residence.

blau said:
**A: your issue has nothing to do with a residential lease and is not a real property issue. It is a contract law matter.

On the contract it said that "it is the intend of the parties that this agreement is a lease of real property..." So doesn't this make it a lease of real property??

blau

**A: let me clarify. The lease of the laundry space although in a residential property is not considered a residential lease. It is considered a commercial or business lease.
And the lease is correct in that it is a lease of real property.
But since you terminated the lease, as you have the right to do as the new owner of the property, the issue is not about real property any longer but an abandoned personal or business property issue and a contract law matter. It could be argued that the lease is still in effect because you did not give the 90 days proper notice to terminate.
That is why in your purchase agreement, this specific lease should have been addressed and the previous owner should have sent a notice of cancellation such that it was clear between all three parties, your intentions.
 

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