what can I do

[snake148]

florida,marion county,city ocala.
I am in security work here. I have come across a person
that has got it in for me. first of all he is on probation for theft of a car dealer ship has no drivers licenses yet he drives everywhere,well i told him he was not welcome at my work place or my home. well he went to my boss at work and told them a bunch of lies to try toget me fired. after that did not work he got himself beat up and told the police that i sent these people to beat him up. now the police follow me all of the time they came to the job the nite this kid got beat up and put me in handcuffs untill they realized i was not the one that beat this kid up.the police want me to tell them who did it and i do not know. the police around here do not like security of any kind what can i do help

 

[JETX]

Q1) "first of all he is on probation for theft of a car dealer ship has no drivers licenses yet he drives everywhere,"
A1) Not your issue. Unless you are a licensed LEO, you can only make a complaint of violation and let them do their job.

Q2) "well i told him he was not welcome at my work place or my home."
A2) You have every right to warn him about trespass at your home (private property), but not at "your work place", since that is not your property and you have no authority.

Q3) "well he went to my boss at work and told them a bunch of lies to try toget me fired after that did not work"
A3) Non issue. It didn't work, you weren't damaged.

Q4) "he got himself beat up and told the police that i sent these people to beat him up. now the police follow me all of the time they came to the job the nite this kid got beat up and put me in handcuffs untill they realized i was not the one that beat this kid up."
A4) Non issue. I assume the police investigated and didn't have sufficient evidence to charge you with the assault.

Q5) "the police want me to tell them who did it and i do not know."
A5) If you really have no knowledge of the assault, you should have nothing to worry about. However, if you do have knowledge, and the PD finds out, you might very well have a concern.

Q6) "the police around here do not like security of any kind what can i do help"
A6) If you are talking about taking legal action against someone, it is possible that you could ask the DA to file 'false report' charges on the complainant, but it would be unlikely that he would accept the charge unless there was a high chance of conviction.

 

[snake148]

ok thanks, although you must have missunderstood my position
at work i am after hours security for a car auction. I do
belieave that if you are employed to keep people out it means all but employies,correct me if i am wrong but i have written permission from the owner to carry a firearm if i
want to, i do not do this though.

 

[JETX]

You weren't clear that this location was at your assigned work location, I assumed it was an office (your post said, " told him he was not welcome at my work place..").

Based on your reply, what would you do if ANYONE were trespassing at the location where you were assigned to provide security?? What authority do you have to either detain the person or call the police to have him/her arrested for trespass?? If you have the authority, use it.
If not, get it.

 

[snake148]

if you would have read the first post right i did state that
i was security,of course you must be a lawyer and only read what you want to. thanks for nothing!!!!!!!!!
also like i said you cannot read i said that the police around here do not like security and make it has hard on us as people like you do!!!!!

 

[JETX]

I guess you took exception to my strong belief that you might have actually had something to do with that assault. Otherwise, why would you be concerned about the police investigating it???

With asinine posts like yours, I think you are mistaken. The police don't dislike ALL security guards.. just the few who can't seem to figure out what they are doing. (I have never heard of one who wasn't aware of his rights to enforce security against a trespasser). For your sake and for all the citizens around you, I certainly hope that you never decide to actually carry a weapon. You might make yourself a candidate for the Darwin Awards by removing yourself from the gene pool.

Also, it might help make your drivel a little easier to read if you could figure out how to use capital letters and periods.

BTW, no response is needed, because I have filtered you out.

 

[snake148]

filter this out aswipe

 

[snake148]

maybe there is someone else who might be able to read
not some street corner dumpster lawyer!!!

 

[snake148]

a investigation dose not connsist of being pulled over
because of the coller of your vehicle.I told them I knew nothing about this situation, the police had no right going to my work for any reason!!! Also I believe that when someone starts spreding lies, that was the same as slander
or defimation of charicter. I now my spelling sucks hopefully you can understand what I mean.

 

[TBTN]

I understand what you are saying despite the spelling. and you are right , once someone is spreading lies is called slander and/or defamation of character. however, proving it is another thing.You have to show the cause and how you are damaged by the slanders or defamation of character by a person who was doing the spreading of lies.a proofs like another witness, or a written words that was being used as a tool to say false things about you.

I don't think halket is excatly a lawyer, or at least not a typical one.From what I had seen him representing himself as a judgement recovery of texas it sounds like he is a debt collector, or something similar, of course I could be wrong.

 

[JETX]

TBTN and snake148:

Thank you. You have finally seen the light that it is VERY easy to claim that a person has been defamed (either slander OR libel); however, it is very hard (and expensive) to PROVE it!!

This world has become incredibly litigious (great for lawyers). Everytime someone feels upset, or that life isn't fair, they scream "SUE" without any consideration for the real requirements of a valid lawsuit.

I have been an active 'advisor' on this forum for a LONG time, and have seen an incredible number of these "He/She done me wrong! and I want to get even" claims. Then, when I (or another forum member) points out the realities that the claimed "defamation" just doesn't rise to the level of action, or that there are more efficient actions that can be taken (and, yes, even to "ignore the issue and get on with life"), some people take offense to it.

None of my posts are intended to be offensive. They are only meant to try to get the poster to realize that what happened to them is not a "life shattering" occurance as they see it. Life happens, sometimes it isn't fair, and sometimes there is absolutely NOTHING that can (in reality) be done about it. If that person came to this forum and says "Help me!", my responsibility is NOT to hold their hand and tell them "Don't worry Dear, everything will be all right". This forum is to try to understand what LEGAL action could be considered. And when it is not reasonable to advise "Sue the *******!", I won't advise it. If you will look at some of my past posts, I have very well said, "Sue them"... but only when there were valid, supportable issues to be determined. Not when it would be a waste of the courts (and the posters) time and money.

And while we are here... some people just do not understand that most lawyers have to make a living too. They do not hang around the courthouse doling out free advise or legal services. Once everyone realizes that lawyers are not free (or even reasonable), they will quickly realize that MOST of these messages on this forum will NEVER see a courtroom. IT is very easy to scream indignation on this forum and that "I DEMAND ACTION!", but something entirely different when the lawyer says, "I will need a $2,000.00 retainer to even consider taking this case".

It is purely YOUR choice on whether you accept the 'ADVICE' that is freely given here or not. But, there is NO excuse for defaming ANYONE's reputation here if you don't like the FREE ADVICE offered!!

And, NO, I am NOT a "debt collector, or something similar". If you would visit my website (listed in my signature line), you will see what I do. And, I am proud to say that I am very probably the ONLY person on this forum who uses his REAL name and contact information!! So, it is obvious that I have NOTHING to hide!!