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arcooke

Junior Member
Texas


To keep it short, I made a purchase at a very reputable (and very well known) website a couple months back and they gave my credit card information to a third party without my permission. I was eventually charged for something I never purchased from this third party.

I've been doing some reading on google and this is a very talked about problem involving both the online retailer and the third party company. I'm furious about it and I'm ready to take it to the next level. However, I'm not sure what type of lawyer I need to get in touch with to proceed.

What do I look for? One that handles, Cybercrimes, Computer law, Internet Fraud, etc? I'm not sure what this is classified as..

Any idea?

Thanks!

Adam
 


arcooke said:
Texas


To keep it short, I made a purchase at a very reputable (and very well known) website a couple months back and they gave my credit card information to a third party without my permission. I was eventually charged for something I never purchased from this third party.

I've been doing some reading on google and this is a very talked about problem involving both the online retailer and the third party company. I'm furious about it and I'm ready to take it to the next level. However, I'm not sure what type of lawyer I need to get in touch with to proceed.

What do I look for? One that handles, Cybercrimes, Computer law, Internet Fraud, etc? I'm not sure what this is classified as..

Any idea?

Thanks!

Adam

My response:

If nothing else comes of this, at least you've learned a lesson about placing your personal, and credit card, information on the Internet. I'll bet you'll never do this again, right?

Now, have you contacted your credit card company to reverse the charges? Have you cancelled your credit card?

But first, you need to tell me which jurisdiction we're talking about; i.e., where are each of these companies located?

IAAL
 
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arcooke

Junior Member
Hi IAAL

Actually, no. I'm not going to stop making online purchases. No need to run from the problem. I only make purchases from large, legitimate online retailers. This particular one just happens to do shady business with a third party. And they're about to get what's coming to them (hopefully).

I don't want to start listing off involved company names, but the site where I purchased my items was about as well known as a website like Amazon.com (just not around quite as long).

I have contacted my credit card company. The card number is being changed. The third party company that billed me without permission was very quick to offer me a refund which has already been processed. I didn't even have to ask them for a refund, they just did it when I called. Everything has been fixed except for the anger I still have about the situation.

As for the jurisdiction.. The main company is located in Los Angeles. The third party is located in Conneticut. I'm in Texas.

Either way, the original question still stands... what type of lawyer would I need to get in contact with to settle such an issue? Regardless of the severity of this crime, the out of state locations of the companies, etc... I still intend to try taking this as far as possible. I'm not one to be had and let it blow over.

Thanks again,
Adam
 
arcooke said:
Hi IAAL

Actually, no. I'm not going to stop making online purchases.

My response:

Anyone who purposefully places themselves in harm's way doesn't deserve my continuing assistance.

Find your answers elsewhere.

IAAL
 

arcooke

Junior Member
My response:

Buying things online isn't "putting yourself in harm's way". I specifically mentioned I only make purchases from reputable online retailers, as do millions of other people. The same situation could just as easially happen shopping at a local store. So what should I do? Stop shopping all together? No thanks. I don't run from problems. Buying online is a lifestyle that's going to grow exponentially worldwide as time goes on. I'm not going to stop because of one bad apple.

Obviously you have a bit of a superiority complex here, "law pro". I'll be more than happy to find my answer elsewhere.

Thank you, come again.
 

disfarer

Junior Member
arcooke said:
My response:

Buying things online isn't "putting yourself in harm's way". I specifically mentioned I only make purchases from reputable online retailers, as do millions of other people. The same situation could just as easially happen shopping at a local store. So what should I do? Stop shopping all together? No thanks. I don't run from problems. Buying online is a lifestyle that's going to grow exponentially worldwide as time goes on. I'm not going to stop because of one bad apple.

Obviously you have a bit of a superiority complex here, "law pro". I'll be more than happy to find my answer elsewhere.

Thank you, come again.
Hear hear! I have also found this guy to have serious problems. He needs to sort out his attitude and learn some online etiquette.
 
arcooke said:
My response:

Buying things online isn't "putting yourself in harm's way". I specifically mentioned I only make purchases from reputable online retailers, as do millions of other people. The same situation could just as easially happen shopping at a local store. So what should I do? Stop shopping all together? No thanks. I don't run from problems. Buying online is a lifestyle that's going to grow exponentially worldwide as time goes on. I'm not going to stop because of one bad apple.

Obviously you have a bit of a superiority complex here, "law pro". I'll be more than happy to find my answer elsewhere.

Thank you, come again.

My response:

Ah, I guess going to law school, and practicing for over 26 years, was a huge waste of time and money for me.

Ignorance is wonderful! Too bad you can't bottle it.

You're going to find out just how wrong you are, and just how expensive this ordeal you intend to pursue is!

If you think the laws and the expenses are the same for purchases "gone bad" when it comes to store purchases "down the street" as they are for purchases made "across State lines," then you definitely have some surprises coming your way.

Oh, and as for that "reputable" company - - if they were so "reputable," then this would never have happened to you!

But, you know law more, and better, than me. So, figure this out yourself.

Good luck. You're going to need it.


IAAL
 
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seniorjudge

Senior Member
arcooke said:
Texas


To keep it short, I made a purchase at a very reputable (and very well known) website a couple months back and they gave my credit card information to a third party without my permission. I was eventually charged for something I never purchased from this third party.

I've been doing some reading on google and this is a very talked about problem involving both the online retailer and the third party company. I'm furious about it and I'm ready to take it to the next level. However, I'm not sure what type of lawyer I need to get in touch with to proceed.

What do I look for? One that handles, Cybercrimes, Computer law, Internet Fraud, etc? I'm not sure what this is classified as..

Any idea?

Thanks!

Adam


Get a temporary credit card number from your credit card company. It is limited by amount and time.
 

arcooke

Junior Member
When did I ever ask about expenses? When did I ever try to compare the legal expenses of local and out of state suits? If you'd actually read my topic, I just had a simple, friendly question about what type of lawyer I'd need to contact. Yet you insisted on coming in here trying to belittle me with this "I'm smarter than you" attitude, as I've seen you do numerous times in other peoples' topics. And you're still doing it right now.

Money is not my concern, it's the principal of the situation. Yes it will be expensive. Yes, I already know that. No, I don't care. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people purchase from this particular website, and it needs to stop. I said the site is reputable, and I meant it. I don't need you coming in here telling me otherwise. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have said it and I probably wouldn't still be persuing this whole ordeal.

Congrats on your 26 years of practice. You don't need to rub it in my face. I'm already plenty aware you're better than me -- you've done a fine job making that point already.


Anyway, I already got in touch with an attorney, so this topic is useless now.

End of conversation.
 
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arcooke

Junior Member
seniorjudge said:
Get a temporary credit card number from your credit card company. It is limited by amount and time.
I already got ahold of my bank (it was actually a check/bank card). They got my card number changed for me and I was reimbursed the fees.. that's all taken care of with no problems.

Thanks,
Adam
 
arcooke said:
Anyway, I already got in touch with an attorney, so this topic is useless now.

My response:

Actually, it's not. Why don't you tell me what the attorney said about local jurisdiction versus out-of-state jurisdiction, hmmmm?

IAAL
 

arcooke

Junior Member
Because this is none of your conern, and because I haven't heard much yet. Consultation scheduled for Monday.
 
arcooke said:
Because this is none of your conern, and because I haven't heard much yet. Consultation scheduled for Monday.

My response:

You're absolutely correct - - about that. However, for the benefit of others that will be reading this thread, it is my business because others learn from the mistakes of others, and it would be nice for others to read what you've learned about jurisdiction and the difference in litigation when it comes to local and out-out-state lawsuits.

You'll find there's a marked difference. But, I want the particulars.

So, write back with what you've learned.

IAAL
 

Texasgal

Junior Member
I would be interested to know what your attorney says. My parents were charged a small fee on their credit card for a "vacation service" for a couple of months before they noticed it. I think my mother had ordered something from television some months earlier (no she won't do it again) and somehow this 3rd party got involved. We contacted the credit card company, cancelled the card, got the refund etc... so it wasn't horrible but I wonder how many Sr. Citizens get scammed that way and what we might have been able to do if it got ugly.
 

Godzilla

Junior Member
arcooke said:
Because this is none of your conern, and because I haven't heard much yet. Consultation scheduled for Monday.

I guess IAAL was right. You either lied about seeing an attorney, or if you did see an attorney, you found out that IAAL was correct and you're too embarrassed to admit it.
 

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