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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California
For a quick refresher so you don't have to look up my history (unless you really want to). I have sole legal and physical custody. Visitation is "as agreed upon by both parents." Dad moved to the east coast 6 months ago. He is out visiting them for the first time since he moved. Cheaper than flying 4 kids to east coast, I paid for hotel, he flew on miles etc.

Okay, so the kids' dad picked them up yesterday morning, kids are excited to see him and off they go. He called to ask me something during the day, thats fine, I can handle that.
Then I get text from 10yo dd's phone saying her head hurts, she told daddy and he ignored her.
She figured out why, its because she didn't eat any lunch, they went bowling instead. Dd is a stick figure, off the charts for her bmi, underweight, has to eat on a regularly schedule or gets an upset stomach. She eats as much if not more than her brother, just a high metabolism.
I texted her that there was tylenol in the meds container for them and ask Dad for one. And get some food in her belly and she will feel better.
She replied that daddy was picking up pizza and wasn't there.
Okay, no biggy, ask him when he gets back.
About 10 mins later she texts me again, she's throwing up.
I texted her, ask daddy for some sprite.
Dad then calls me and says "your daughter making herself throw up just because I got mad at her for tattling. all the kids are tattling on eachother, I don't know where they picked this up from, but its pissing me off."
I told him, give her some sprite and it will calm down her stomach.
He responded, "she will have to have water, I only got coke."
"Does the hotel have a vending machine?" I said.
"Then I'd have to go get money out." Was his response.

Yeah, I'm giving him about a D for last night, hoping it gets better for them. They leave to go out of town (3 hours away) for an amusement park. Hopefully that goes well, the oldest hasn't said anything, I'm just having to hope that if there is a major problem/issue that either of the oldest two will text me or call me.

I'm just wondering where do I draw the line at them having to put up with the mental abuse game he likes to play with them. Obviously last night wasn't a big deal, but if he is already pissed at them and he'd only had them for 8 hours, I don't want to think what the rest of the week will be like.
 


Antigone*

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California
For a quick refresher so you don't have to look up my history (unless you really want to). I have sole legal and physical custody. Visitation is "as agreed upon by both parents." Dad moved to the east coast 6 months ago. He is out visiting them for the first time since he moved. Cheaper than flying 4 kids to east coast, I paid for hotel, he flew on miles etc.

Okay, so the kids' dad picked them up yesterday morning, kids are excited to see him and off they go. He called to ask me something during the day, thats fine, I can handle that.
Then I get text from 10yo dd's phone saying her head hurts, she told daddy and he ignored her.
She figured out why, its because she didn't eat any lunch, they went bowling instead. Dd is a stick figure, off the charts for her bmi, underweight, has to eat on a regularly schedule or gets an upset stomach. She eats as much if not more than her brother, just a high metabolism.
I texted her that there was tylenol in the meds container for them and ask Dad for one. And get some food in her belly and she will feel better.
She replied that daddy was picking up pizza and wasn't there.
Okay, no biggy, ask him when he gets back.
About 10 mins later she texts me again, she's throwing up.
I texted her, ask daddy for some sprite.
Dad then calls me and says "your daughter making herself throw up just because I got mad at her for tattling. all the kids are tattling on eachother, I don't know where they picked this up from, but its pissing me off."
I told him, give her some sprite and it will calm down her stomach.
He responded, "she will have to have water, I only got coke."
"Does the hotel have a vending machine?" I said.
"Then I'd have to go get money out." Was his response.

Yeah, I'm giving him about a D for last night, hoping it gets better for them. They leave to go out of town (3 hours away) for an amusement park. Hopefully that goes well, the oldest hasn't said anything, I'm just having to hope that if there is a major problem/issue that either of the oldest two will text me or call me.

I'm just wondering where do I draw the line at them having to put up with the mental abuse game he likes to play with them. Obviously last night wasn't a big deal, but if he is already pissed at them and he'd only had them for 8 hours, I don't want to think what the rest of the week will be like.
Please don't take this wrong, but I think you need to let Dad have his time with his kids all to himself. You would be better served having DD only contact you in case of emergency. I know it is not easy but it is only fair to Dad.

Look at this posting as if it were someone you didn't know, and then look at it again from Dad's point of view.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California
For a quick refresher so you don't have to look up my history (unless you really want to). I have sole legal and physical custody. Visitation is "as agreed upon by both parents." Dad moved to the east coast 6 months ago. He is out visiting them for the first time since he moved. Cheaper than flying 4 kids to east coast, I paid for hotel, he flew on miles etc.

Okay, so the kids' dad picked them up yesterday morning, kids are excited to see him and off they go. He called to ask me something during the day, thats fine, I can handle that.
Then I get text from 10yo dd's phone saying her head hurts, she told daddy and he ignored her.
She figured out why, its because she didn't eat any lunch, they went bowling instead. Dd is a stick figure, off the charts for her bmi, underweight, has to eat on a regularly schedule or gets an upset stomach. She eats as much if not more than her brother, just a high metabolism.
I texted her that there was tylenol in the meds container for them and ask Dad for one. And get some food in her belly and she will feel better.
She replied that daddy was picking up pizza and wasn't there.
Okay, no biggy, ask him when he gets back.
About 10 mins later she texts me again, she's throwing up.
I texted her, ask daddy for some sprite.
Dad then calls me and says "your daughter making herself throw up just because I got mad at her for tattling. all the kids are tattling on eachother, I don't know where they picked this up from, but its pissing me off."
I told him, give her some sprite and it will calm down her stomach.
He responded, "she will have to have water, I only got coke."
"Does the hotel have a vending machine?" I said.
"Then I'd have to go get money out." Was his response.

Yeah, I'm giving him about a D for last night, hoping it gets better for them. They leave to go out of town (3 hours away) for an amusement park. Hopefully that goes well, the oldest hasn't said anything, I'm just having to hope that if there is a major problem/issue that either of the oldest two will text me or call me.

I'm just wondering where do I draw the line at them having to put up with the mental abuse game he likes to play with them. Obviously last night wasn't a big deal, but if he is already pissed at them and he'd only had them for 8 hours, I don't want to think what the rest of the week will be like.
I'm gonna base my answer ONLY on this post, because I *don't* feel like looking up your history.

Answer: Let dad handle it.
 
Please don't take this wrong, but I think you need to let Dad have his time with his kids all to himself. You would be better served having DD only contact you in case of emergency. I know it is not easy but it is only fair to Dad.

Look at this posting as if it were someone you didn't know, and then look at it again from Dad's point of view.
Thank you for your response. I'm having a really hard time drawing the line on when to respond and how to respond. Even when I was married to their dad, the kids have always come to me with problems, never to him. I feel like I'm abandoning them if I don't respond.
 

Isis1

Senior Member
Thank you for your response. I'm having a really hard time drawing the line on when to respond and how to respond. Even when I was married to their dad, the kids have always come to me with problems, never to him. I feel like I'm abandoning them if I don't respond.
sorry, band wagon on this one. dad needs to be able to cope, and dad needs to know you have confidence he can cope. if kids realize you feel he can't, they will use that to their advantage, or feel insecure while they are with dad.

honestly, i couldn't stand it when the father of my two older ones would panic and call his mommy anytime the kids had a cold.
 
sorry, band wagon on this one. dad needs to be able to cope, and dad needs to know you have confidence he can cope. if kids realize you feel he can't, they will use that to their advantage, or feel insecure while they are with dad.

honestly, i couldn't stand it when the father of my two older ones would panic and call his mommy anytime the kids had a cold.
Funny you say that. When I went to my mom's for her birthday and he kept the kids for a weekend right after the divorce, he called me because the youngest had a fever and he didn't know what to give her. Then proceeded to get mad at me because I didn't answer the phone the first time he called.
Maybe I missed something...he has them for the week? Are they not in school?
They are on fall break.
 

Isis1

Senior Member
Funny you say that. When I went to my mom's for her birthday and he kept the kids for a weekend right after the divorce, he called me because the youngest had a fever and he didn't know what to give her. Then proceeded to get mad at me because I didn't answer the phone the first time he called.
i'm not fond of momma's boys. at. all.
 

Zephyr

Senior Member
Answer the phone, tell your children to ask their father- that he is more than capable of handling the situation.

This really doesn't come anywhere close to mental abuse games. And I get ticked when my kids start that tattling crap too.
 

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