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When daddy comes for baby too early

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onmytime

Member
What is the name of your state? AZ

I do not want to appear to be trival but my ex and I have become completly at odds over the past two months. We had been civil with each other until he told me he got another woman pregnant. I have not been nasty with him in any way but he has been extremely rude (maybe it's the pressure that's getting to him of having another baby on the way). Anyway on Sunday he came to pick our son up. The agreement was, he was to pick him up at 9:00 AM and drop him off at 6 PM (this is the first time he has taken him away from home by his choice). He showed up at 8:30 AM. I had already packed my child's bag and all I had to do was get him dressed. I went to the door and kindly explained to him that the agreement was at 9 and he would be ready at that time. I did not let him in (only because he has been rude and I am no longer going to be disrespected). I will however remain civil and cordial. My son's father returned to the door at 9 and I walked them to the car.

The carseat my son's father had was extremely dirty and was the carseat his 7 year old daughter used when she was an infant. I was shocked that he wouldn't spring for a new seat, especially since he has been very inconsistent with support, I would think he had been saving money because he wasn't giving it to his son. I asked him for the make and model of the seat because it looked like it was from 1972. He became very angry. Not to mention I let him use my stroller.

I called at 1PM to see how everything was going and he was extremely rude. This was the first time he had our son by himself and I was only checking to see if baby & dad were making out ok. But he hated that I called ONE time. I didn't repsond back to his nastiness I simply stated I hope you have a good day and hung up. Even at daycare they allow you to call. GEEEZZZZ!

When he dropped him off he came at 5:30. Like I said before not to be picky however my daughter and I had just returned from a movie and thank goodness we didn't stop at the store or anything. The way this man has been acting lately I know he would pitch a fit if we weren't at home when he got there.

My question is does 9 mean 9 and does 6 mean 6? Not that I didn't love seeing my baby a little early because I missed him but I want to establish the proper expectations NOW! In addition I am not on my son's father's schedule. I think he has the idea that he can come and go when he likes and I will be at home.

Do I have the right to know the make and model of the carseat especially since it didn't look stable and was 7 years old?
 


stealth2

Under the Radar Member
onmytime said:
My question is does 9 mean 9 and does 6 mean 6?
This is being petty. If he was early on the p/u and kiddo was ready - let them go on their way! We're not talking hours early, but 30 minutes. Same with the d/o. If you hadn't been home, he'd have had to wait and that's that. All this sort of thing does is ramp up the animosity. Be the bigger person and don't play the game.

Car seat..... He had a car seat. If his kiddo used it 7 years ago, it was hardly from 1972.

Phone call...... This was HIS time with his son. Give him some space.
 

onmytime

Member
stealth2 said:
This is being petty. If he was early on the p/u and kiddo was ready - let them go on their way! We're not talking hours early, but 30 minutes. Same with the d/o. If you hadn't been home, he'd have had to wait and that's that. All this sort of thing does is ramp up the animosity. Be the bigger person and don't play the game.

Car seat..... He had a car seat. If his kiddo used it 7 years ago, it was hardly from 1972.

Phone call...... This was HIS time with his son. Give him some space.
Forgive my sarcastic humor. I know the seat was not from 1972. However what I was asking is do I have the right to know the make and model of the seat? People buy carseats all the time new right out of the box only to get a letter in the mail stating there is some type of defect. And seats do become outdated. I take saftey very seriously regardless of whose child it may be.

Regarding the phone call. I understand about it being his time. In my defense it was the first time he had had our son alone and I just wanted to make sure dad was ok as well as baby. Now that I see my child came home in one piece I won't call again. Thank you.

I completely understand about being the bigger person and thank you for that advice I will continue to keep that in mind. However my son was not dressed, I had just taken him out of the bath and he was ready to go at 9. If he had been ready before 9 by no means would I had told him to come back. I agree that would have been silly. Stealth I have read quite a few of your postings and it appears as though you have alot of experience. I have a 12 yr old but like I said her father and I get along great so there is no problem communicating. However with my son, his father is a challenge. I realize the time thing is petty but what's not petty is him respecting our home and my time. I respected him by having our son ready on time at 9 and no later. It works both ways. How do I convey that respect is necessary without being petty or looking petty? My daughter's father would never show up early or at least not without calling to say hey I'm a little early is she ready to go? I guess to give you a little history my son's father is one who expects you to get off the other line when he calls or calls at 2:00 AM when he gets off work or expects that when he came to the door he was going to come in my home and mill around until 9. I know he would not let me come into his home and wait around until pickup time. Like I said I'm not trying to be petty I'm just trying to establish guidelines and respect. I appreciate your advice.
 

haiku

Senior Member
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onmytime said:
What is the name of your state? AZ

I do not want to appear to be trival but my ex and I have become completly at odds over the past two months. We had been civil with each other until he told me he got another woman pregnant. I have not been nasty with him in any way but he has been extremely rude (maybe it's the pressure that's getting to him of having another baby on the way). Anyway on Sunday he came to pick our son up. The agreement was, he was to pick him up at 9:00 AM and drop him off at 6 PM (this is the first time he has taken him away from home by his choice). He showed up at 8:30 AM. I had already packed my child's bag and all I had to do was get him dressed. I went to the door and kindly explained to him that the agreement was at 9 and he would be ready at that time. I did not let him in (only because he has been rude and I am no longer going to be disrespected). I will however remain civil and cordial. My son's father returned to the door at 9 and I walked them to the car.

***OK, time to think about 'choosing battles wisely". you got at least 18 more years of legally being entangled with this guy, it can be either him or you, who begans the process of making life easier. Is it really worth it over a 1/2 hour?

How bout a cheerful "hey you're really lucky we are all packed, have a seat while I finish getting him ready OK?, next time though try to be a little later because we plan for 9!"***

The carseat my son's father had was extremely dirty and was the carseat his 7 year old daughter used when she was an infant. I was shocked that he wouldn't spring for a new seat, especially since he has been very inconsistent with support, I would think he had been saving money because he wasn't giving it to his son. I asked him for the make and model of the seat because it looked like it was from 1972. He became very angry. Not to mention I let him use my stroller.

***All you need to know is he has a seat. what kind of seat is not your business any more. I give you points for letting him borrow your stroller, and see no reason why you cannot ask for that back.****

I called at 1PM to see how everything was going and he was extremely rude. This was the first time he had our son by himself and I was only checking to see if baby & dad were making out ok. But he hated that I called ONE time. I didn't repsond back to his nastiness I simply stated I hope you have a good day and hung up. Even at daycare they allow you to call. GEEEZZZZ!

****First mistake: DAD is not a daycare. you should not have to call him to check how its going. If he has an issue he knows he can call you right?****

When he dropped him off he came at 5:30. Like I said before not to be picky however my daughter and I had just returned from a movie and thank goodness we didn't stop at the store or anything. The way this man has been acting lately I know he would pitch a fit if we weren't at home when he got there.

***OK, you cannot be upset he wanted him a half hour early and then dropped him off a half hour early? After all were you still out with your other child, he would have had to wait anyway. it just worked out you were home. I have had people drop my kids off earlier than expected, even done it with my kids-no big deal in the big picture.****

My question is does 9 mean 9 and does 6 mean 6? Not that I didn't love seeing my baby a little early because I missed him but I want to establish the proper expectations NOW! In addition I am not on my son's father's schedule. I think he has the idea that he can come and go when he likes and I will be at home.

***A half hour is not that big a deal....and is easily taken care of by making him wait for you to finish packing, and not being home until 6, if it bothers you that much. ***

Do I have the right to know the make and model of the carseat especially since it didn't look stable and was 7 years old?
***NO****
 
If you were that worried about your child's safety, you would have let him borrow your carseat. The fact that you did not even offer indicates that it wasn't the child you were concerned about, it was picking a fight with dad. If dad arrives early and the kid is not ready, why not let dad help get the kid ready? It'd make things easier for you and help him with bonding.
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
I'll give you the same answer I give every parent who is pissing and moaning about petty issues:

If you don't like the way things are going, give up custody. Then you'll have the 'BETTER' side of things.
 

onmytime

Member
stepmom&mom said:
If you were that worried about your child's safety, you would have let him borrow your carseat. The fact that you did not even offer indicates that it wasn't the child you were concerned about, it was picking a fight with dad. If dad arrives early and the kid is not ready, why not let dad help get the kid ready? It'd make things easier for you and help him with bonding.
I thank you all for the advice and the different points of view. I find reading everyone's postings enjoyable, enlightening and entertaining for the most part because there is always another piece to the story. I am very concerened about my child and his saftey and I won't pick a fight with you by being offended by you implying that I was only concerned with picking a fight with my son's father. I will just simply say that I was recently in a car accident and my car seat was not available. My son has two car seats and the other was in my parents car. They had already left for church that morning. If I had known the battered condition of my ex's seat I would have leant him my seat as well, just as I did the stroller and everything else I packed for him to go with his daddy. I love my son and at no cost will my son suffer because dad & I don't get along right now. If my car seat was available I would have given it to him with no problem. However it was not available until my parents returned from church came to pick me up at my home and then I used their car to take my daughter to a movie.

Thank you for the advice on inviting dad in to help our child get ready, however dad has been extremely rude, even though I have remained very kind and nice. I that this time I have to take a stance to not be spoken to rudely or disrespected. Hopefully soon we can restore our civil relationship, until then distance in that respect of him not coming in my home I believe is necessary. I will keep your advice in mind and jump at the chance to use it when dad is able to be civil. Thank you.
 

mrsbrown

Member
I am not at all a lawyer, but I am often on here trying to find some answers for my husband and did read your situation. As wife #2 and stepmother of his 3 kids (he is the cp) I can relate in a way to your story. Things were very tense between my husband and his exwife and eventually me only because she started coming to our house or calling when he was at work. After awhile she lost steam and things have cooled down. Just give it time:) I would not feel comfortable inviting her in our house because of her past behavior and rude comments, so I don't think you should feel pressure to do that at all. As long as you handle yourself calmly and put your son first you will be doing the right thing. All in all just give it time...
 

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