an odd question

[dhammerman2003]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? IL/AZ

If I go down to AZ at all my cousin will file a restraining order against me barring all contact from his kids for claiming that I did inappropriate things (sexual) to them and another restraining order for claims of harassment for constantly calling because they can't be bothered to return someones calls in a timely manner.

My cousin found my stash of stuff on my computer (porn all legal as well) and based on what they found they are claiming that the thought was there that I would do inappropriate things to the kids (which I would NEVER EVER DO) and to further add because I was being too nice to the kids and giving them what they wanted (except for things that are illegal), etc. and based on what they found plus me being friendly with the kids they are claiming that I am something that I'm not (p___p____). They are also claiming that based on me calling them a few times during the week while they are home they will refuse to pickup the phone even though I know that they are home and claim it as harassment.

Ever since they threatened me with a restraining order I have made no contact to my cousin or his wife yet their kids are constantly in contact with me behind their parents back and wishes. My cousin told the kids don't talk to your cousin as he is a p___p____ and you shouldn't be talking to them at all. Here's the thing though I DID NOT DO ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE TO THE KIDS AT ALL IN THAT WAY AS I EVEN KNOW THAT IS CONSIDERED INCEST AND AGAINST THE LAW!

I can't even contact him to apologize for fear of them filing a restraining order just to call and apologize to them much less talk to them. I don't know what kind of proof they have that would claim that I did do inappropriate things with the kids at all and if you ask the kids they will agree that nothing happened between their cousin and them.

Anything that I can do or am I better off not having any contact with them at all even though the kids want to with me**************

 

[WittyUserName]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? IL/AZ

If I go down to AZ at all my cousin will file a restraining order against me barring all contact from his kids for claiming that I did inappropriate things (sexual) to them and another restraining order for claims of harassment for constantly calling because they can't be bothered to return someones calls in a timely manner.

My cousin found my stash of stuff on my computer (porn all legal as well) and based on what they found they are claiming that the thought was there that I would do inappropriate things to the kids (which I would NEVER EVER DO) and to further add because I was being too nice to the kids and giving them what they wanted (except for things that are illegal), etc. and based on what they found plus me being friendly with the kids they are claiming that I am something that I'm not (p___p____). They are also claiming that based on me calling them a few times during the week while they are home they will refuse to pickup the phone even though I know that they are home and claim it as harassment.

Ever since they threatened me with a restraining order I have made no contact to my cousin or his wife yet their kids are constantly in contact with me behind their parents back and wishes. My cousin told the kids don't talk to your cousin as he is a p___p____ and you shouldn't be talking to them at all. Here's the thing though I DID NOT DO ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE TO THE KIDS AT ALL IN THAT WAY AS I EVEN KNOW THAT IS CONSIDERED INCEST AND AGAINST THE LAW!

I can't even contact him to apologize for fear of them filing a restraining order just to call and apologize to them much less talk to them. I don't know what kind of proof they have that would claim that I did do inappropriate things with the kids at all and if you ask the kids they will agree that nothing happened between their cousin and them.

Anything that I can do or am I better off not having any contact with them at all even though the kids want to with me**************

If they don't want you in their lives, then yes you are harassing them. And parents have the right to decide who and who isn't in contact with their children. Continuing to contact the kids is a terribly stupid decision.

Stop calling them. Why is that so hard?

 

[Isis1]

wow! posting history folks!!

good grief man! or little boy. whichever. what does not answering calls mean besides "i don't want to talk to you"??? they don't have to ever return your calls. ever! no court in the entire universe will require these family members to speak to you. they don't want you speaking to their kids. that's it. that's final.

jeez. no wonder aunty doesn't want you anywhere near the family. your dad included.

 

[dhammerman2003]

If they don't want you in their lives, then yes you are harassing them. And parents have the right to decide who and who isn't in contact with their children. Continuing to contact the kids is a terribly stupid decision.

Stop calling them. Why is that so hard?

I have stopped calling them once they threatened me with the restraining order and that has been a few months now however the kids are in contact with me because they want to be in contact with their only cousin.

 

[Isis1]

I have stopped calling them once they threatened me with the restraining order and that has been a few months now however the kids are in contact with me because they want to be in contact with their only cousin.

so what part about "have no contact with minor children" do you not understand? what part of parental interference are you not understanding?

 

[dhammerman2003]

wow! posting history folks!!

good grief man! or little boy. whichever. what does not answering calls mean besides "i don't want to talk to you"??? they don't have to ever return your calls. ever! no court in the entire universe will require these family members to speak to you. they don't want you speaking to their kids. that's it. that's final.

jeez. no wonder aunty doesn't want you anywhere near the family. your dad included.

Never said they had to but when I was raised if you leave someone a voicemail, email, text, etc. whether it is family or not you should hear back within 24-48hrs because that is the norm for my generation (Gen Y). Returning someones call in 3 weeks isn't. The point is that I called left a message, no response, etc.

Family shouldn't be ignoring phone calls from other family members especially if they are your only other family that you have and would like to stay in touch once a month or so.

 

[dhammerman2003]

so what part about "have no contact with minor children" do you not understand? what part of parental interference are you not understanding?

The part of "I'm not a p___p____ part" also their children WANT to stay in contact with me behind their parents back as they don't give a hoot about it.

 

[Proserpina]

Oh good lord - REALLY?!

The parents said no contact.

That means...no contact.

No contacto. Non contactinople. Nyet contaktin. NO CONTACT.

That means...when the kids call, you don't answer. You don't return calls, you don't return texts.

No.
Con.
Tact.

No contact no contact no contact no contact no contact.

Clear?

 

[Isis1]

Never said they had to but when I was raised if you leave someone a voicemail, email, text, etc. whether it is family or not you should hear back within 24-48hrs because that is the norm for my generation (Gen Y). Returning someones call in 3 weeks isn't. The point is that I called left a message, no response, etc.

Family shouldn't be ignoring phone calls from other family members especially if they are your only other family that you have and would like to stay in touch once a month or so.

you are on a legal board, sonny. there is no legal requirement for anyone to return any call from anyone barring a court order requiring such.

family can ignore phone calls and messages. i do it all the time. i commited no crime.

 

[Proserpina]

Never said they had to but when I was raised if you leave someone a voicemail, email, text, etc. whether it is family or not you should hear back within 24-48hrs because that is the norm for my generation (Gen Y). Returning someones call in 3 weeks isn't. The point is that I called left a message, no response, etc.

Family shouldn't be ignoring phone calls from other family members especially if they are your only other family that you have and would like to stay in touch once a month or so.

They have every right to ignore whomever they wish to ignore.

YOUR rights end right at your phone. Your rights don't extend to their phone.

You're on your way to being restrained from just about every family member you have.

(This assumes you're not trolling on this fine, sunny Sunday)

 

[Isis1]

They have every right to ignore whomever they wish to ignore.

YOUR rights end right at your phone. Your rights don't extend to their phone.

You're on your way to being restrained from just about every family member you have.

(This assumes you're not trolling on this fine, sunny Sunday)

it's time for some backyard lemonade. my treat!

 

[dhammerman2003]

and what about them claiming that I did inappropriate things with the kids as that is why they are threatening with the restraining order and if I contact their house to speak to them at all they consider it proof for harassment.

 

[Proserpina]

and what about them claiming that I did inappropriate things with the kids as that is why they are threatening with the restraining order and if I contact their house to speak to them at all they consider it proof for harassment.

How about you just cease all contact?

If they make false statements to a third party that you're a child molester, speak to an attorney about a defamation case.

 

[Isis1]

and what about them claiming that I did inappropriate things with the kids as that is why they are threatening with the restraining order and if I contact their house to speak to them at all they consider it proof for harassment.

what about it? they can claim you wear a tin foil hat with spiderman tightie whities on full moon nights while hanging from a tree sipping on juice. if they don't want you to call, they don't want you to call.

if they decide they don't want you to call because you save abandoned animals, feed the homeless and adopt under priviledged children while building homes in third world countries single handedly, they can forbid it. they don't want you to call.

any contact after that, is grounds for a restraining order.

 

[dhammerman2003]

How about you just cease all contact?

If they make false statements to a third party that you're a child molester, speak to an attorney about a defamation case.

I have ceased all contact to them by phone and email but their kids don't want to listen to their parents rules.

what about it? they can claim you wear a tin foil hat with spiderman tightie whities on full moon nights while hanging from a tree sipping on juice. if they don't want you to call, they don't want you to call.

if they decide they don't want you to call because you save abandoned animals, feed the homeless and adopt under priviledged children while building homes in third world countries single handedly, they can forbid it. they don't want you to call.

any contact after that, is grounds for a restraining order.

I've stopped contacting them by phone but their kids don't want to listen to their parents so they want and are still in contact behind their parents back.