seekjustice
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California
I have questions for my recent Paid Leave.
First, I was offered a personal leave from last Friday (Nov 1, 2013) and the Chief Credit Officer suggested me to do so regarding the matter I recently file a personal complaint and he even suggested me to pack my personal stuffs if I want to. So, I took his offer and during the discussion, he had the head of the human resource as a witness. So, it definitely made me feel this personal leave was proper to do so. Then, I packed my personal stuffs and even voluntarily return the drawer key to my supervisor. And then I left. However, after I got home, I felt weird as I didn’t receive any written notice or even asked me to sign anything. So, I returned the email to Chief Credit Officer as I need a written notice for this Paid Rest. Then, on Sunday, I emailed again to both Chief Credit Officer and Human Resource as I will continue to work on the Monday (Nov 4, 2013) unless the Chief Credit Officer insisted me to take the Paid Rest and receive a written letter from him.
On the Monday, November 4 of 2013, I returned to the bank and even brought my personal stuffs with the box. However, after I asked the key back from my supervisor and was ready to turn on my computer, Head of Human Resource came to me and asked me to go to the small conference room for discussing my current situation. She told me I was already been placed on Paid Leave (now a new term to me) and I asked how come I didn’t have any written notice. So, I came back to work. Then, she asked me from now on, I was not allowed to turn on the computer and waited for the Chief Officer to talk to us through the phone conference as he was at the other branch (The bank only have two branches). Then, during the phone discussion, the Chief Officer clarified me again as this is a Paid Leave and then I asked whether it is voluntary or involuntary. He responded me as this Paid Leave was ordered by the board and it was not optional for me. So, I requested him to put this Paid Leave in black and white letter clearly stated this matter and he promised me to email me one by the end of the day. So, I walked to my desk to pick up my box and I have been asked to return the drawer key at this time initiated by them. Then, I left. I went to my car and decided to drive to the Park branch of the Bank. After I walked in and went to the Chief Officer’s desk, I saw he was on the phone and I stepped aside until he finished his phone call. But, he put down his phone and came to me as he again promised me I will get a written letter and waited for his call as he is going to the Industry branch later. So, I walked back to my car and the Chief Officer showed up to me and told me I was not patient and my behavior indicated not trust on him. I explained to him as I wanted to get the written letter as a proof for these two-week’s Paid Leave as this is a serious stuff to me and I even asked whether everything must be in written format. And he responded generally yes. In this case, he is the bank’s Vice President and Chief Credit Officer of the Loan department and when he stated this matter of the two weeks Paid Leave, his words is a commitment, especially with Head of Human Resource as a witness in the discussion from last Friday (the discussion was finished around 6:40 pm. on Friday). So, again, the Chief Credit Officer promised me that I will get a written letter for these two weeks Paid Leave and he will have it ready and emailed it to me by the end of the day (Monday). Then, I asked when and also preparing the letter won't take much time. But, he again promised me I will get it by the end of the day, that could be 3pm, 5pm or later. Then, I left and drove the car back to home. So, I went home and later decided to go back Industry branch in order to get the written letter for the Paid Leave. Also, in case the Chief Credit Officer intentionally didn’t prepare the written letter for my Paid Leave or even refused to do so, I printed out all the evaluations review and the personal complaint and brought them together to the Industry branch so that I can show my complaint to the third party Auditors to assist me for my situation if necessary as the Auditors will stay around two weeks for the loan review. So, around 3pm, I walked into the Industry branch and directly to the Chief Credit Officer’s office. When I walked in, the Chief Credit Officer was surprised I showed up again and asked why I was there. So, he asked me to close the door and blamed me by kept showing up would cause harassment to other employees. And I responded, is it? And he said yes and he explained my showing up and gone would cause rumor beyond the colleagues and the matter of my personal complaint was confidential to other colleagues. So, he warned me no more to show up and told me whether I wanted other colleagues found out my matter what’s going on. So, I understood and insisted to wait outside of the bank for the written letter to indicate the two-week’s Paid Leave. And he told me to stay out of the bank’s premise and I agreed and waited on the public parking next to the bank. Around 5:30 pm, the Chief Credit Officer walked out from the bank and handed me the written letter for the two-week’s Paid Leave.
1) Since this Paid Leave is ordered by the Board (mentioned in the Monday’s phone discussion) when I discussed with Chief Credit Officer again on Monday for clarifying our discussion on last Friday and told me that this Paid Leave is not optional for me, why Chief Credit Officer not provide this Paid Leave letter on last Friday instead on the following Monday (the beginning day of the Paid Leave period)?
2) Also, this Paid Leave was ordered by the Board and the requirement of the Bank, why Chief Credit Officer did not initiate to provide this written letter to me on last Friday until I request one and then he started to prepare one on the Monday instead of the last Friday, the last working day before the Paid Leave period start?
3) Any illegal procedure executed by both Chief Credit Officer and the head of Human Resource?
4) Also, I will consider this is a deceived intention and conspiracy as they used the witness to prove what they told me on last Friday while I didn’t have one to prove what I had been told. In addition, if this was originally offered as a Personal Leave and I didn’t receive any written notice and only suggested the Personal Leave because they didn’t want me to have solid evidence for this event and otherwise the Personal Leave is not appropriated to use in this case as the Personal Leave must be initiated by the employee, whom is me. Therefore, without submitting any written request for Personal Leave might lead me to break the rule without prior notice to my supervisor as the bank will think me as absence without proper notice and eventually treat the employee as voluntary terminated. So, is it anyway to prove that I was originally suggested by Chief Credit Officer to have a personal leave based on the above condition I had on last Friday and then the following Monday?
Thank you guys for any good advice,
Seekjustice.
I have questions for my recent Paid Leave.
First, I was offered a personal leave from last Friday (Nov 1, 2013) and the Chief Credit Officer suggested me to do so regarding the matter I recently file a personal complaint and he even suggested me to pack my personal stuffs if I want to. So, I took his offer and during the discussion, he had the head of the human resource as a witness. So, it definitely made me feel this personal leave was proper to do so. Then, I packed my personal stuffs and even voluntarily return the drawer key to my supervisor. And then I left. However, after I got home, I felt weird as I didn’t receive any written notice or even asked me to sign anything. So, I returned the email to Chief Credit Officer as I need a written notice for this Paid Rest. Then, on Sunday, I emailed again to both Chief Credit Officer and Human Resource as I will continue to work on the Monday (Nov 4, 2013) unless the Chief Credit Officer insisted me to take the Paid Rest and receive a written letter from him.
On the Monday, November 4 of 2013, I returned to the bank and even brought my personal stuffs with the box. However, after I asked the key back from my supervisor and was ready to turn on my computer, Head of Human Resource came to me and asked me to go to the small conference room for discussing my current situation. She told me I was already been placed on Paid Leave (now a new term to me) and I asked how come I didn’t have any written notice. So, I came back to work. Then, she asked me from now on, I was not allowed to turn on the computer and waited for the Chief Officer to talk to us through the phone conference as he was at the other branch (The bank only have two branches). Then, during the phone discussion, the Chief Officer clarified me again as this is a Paid Leave and then I asked whether it is voluntary or involuntary. He responded me as this Paid Leave was ordered by the board and it was not optional for me. So, I requested him to put this Paid Leave in black and white letter clearly stated this matter and he promised me to email me one by the end of the day. So, I walked to my desk to pick up my box and I have been asked to return the drawer key at this time initiated by them. Then, I left. I went to my car and decided to drive to the Park branch of the Bank. After I walked in and went to the Chief Officer’s desk, I saw he was on the phone and I stepped aside until he finished his phone call. But, he put down his phone and came to me as he again promised me I will get a written letter and waited for his call as he is going to the Industry branch later. So, I walked back to my car and the Chief Officer showed up to me and told me I was not patient and my behavior indicated not trust on him. I explained to him as I wanted to get the written letter as a proof for these two-week’s Paid Leave as this is a serious stuff to me and I even asked whether everything must be in written format. And he responded generally yes. In this case, he is the bank’s Vice President and Chief Credit Officer of the Loan department and when he stated this matter of the two weeks Paid Leave, his words is a commitment, especially with Head of Human Resource as a witness in the discussion from last Friday (the discussion was finished around 6:40 pm. on Friday). So, again, the Chief Credit Officer promised me that I will get a written letter for these two weeks Paid Leave and he will have it ready and emailed it to me by the end of the day (Monday). Then, I asked when and also preparing the letter won't take much time. But, he again promised me I will get it by the end of the day, that could be 3pm, 5pm or later. Then, I left and drove the car back to home. So, I went home and later decided to go back Industry branch in order to get the written letter for the Paid Leave. Also, in case the Chief Credit Officer intentionally didn’t prepare the written letter for my Paid Leave or even refused to do so, I printed out all the evaluations review and the personal complaint and brought them together to the Industry branch so that I can show my complaint to the third party Auditors to assist me for my situation if necessary as the Auditors will stay around two weeks for the loan review. So, around 3pm, I walked into the Industry branch and directly to the Chief Credit Officer’s office. When I walked in, the Chief Credit Officer was surprised I showed up again and asked why I was there. So, he asked me to close the door and blamed me by kept showing up would cause harassment to other employees. And I responded, is it? And he said yes and he explained my showing up and gone would cause rumor beyond the colleagues and the matter of my personal complaint was confidential to other colleagues. So, he warned me no more to show up and told me whether I wanted other colleagues found out my matter what’s going on. So, I understood and insisted to wait outside of the bank for the written letter to indicate the two-week’s Paid Leave. And he told me to stay out of the bank’s premise and I agreed and waited on the public parking next to the bank. Around 5:30 pm, the Chief Credit Officer walked out from the bank and handed me the written letter for the two-week’s Paid Leave.
1) Since this Paid Leave is ordered by the Board (mentioned in the Monday’s phone discussion) when I discussed with Chief Credit Officer again on Monday for clarifying our discussion on last Friday and told me that this Paid Leave is not optional for me, why Chief Credit Officer not provide this Paid Leave letter on last Friday instead on the following Monday (the beginning day of the Paid Leave period)?
2) Also, this Paid Leave was ordered by the Board and the requirement of the Bank, why Chief Credit Officer did not initiate to provide this written letter to me on last Friday until I request one and then he started to prepare one on the Monday instead of the last Friday, the last working day before the Paid Leave period start?
3) Any illegal procedure executed by both Chief Credit Officer and the head of Human Resource?
4) Also, I will consider this is a deceived intention and conspiracy as they used the witness to prove what they told me on last Friday while I didn’t have one to prove what I had been told. In addition, if this was originally offered as a Personal Leave and I didn’t receive any written notice and only suggested the Personal Leave because they didn’t want me to have solid evidence for this event and otherwise the Personal Leave is not appropriated to use in this case as the Personal Leave must be initiated by the employee, whom is me. Therefore, without submitting any written request for Personal Leave might lead me to break the rule without prior notice to my supervisor as the bank will think me as absence without proper notice and eventually treat the employee as voluntary terminated. So, is it anyway to prove that I was originally suggested by Chief Credit Officer to have a personal leave based on the above condition I had on last Friday and then the following Monday?
Thank you guys for any good advice,
Seekjustice.
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