Laws for doctors who refuse to help you.

[Proserpina]

Ok the one that i will agree is obsession but is it the same kind of obsession that you known seen or use to seeing in people then. remember that every car runs on its own speed. ok lets say you were in my shoes which i can tell you that you will never understand this the way i do and others. But back to my example lets say that you have this same problem, we have this stereotype that the first thing we hear see or use to knowing we have thing to jugde. Just becuase that the shores to one is not the same does not main that your way is the same. this post id not so much about i want to sue a doctor i dont think i even said the word sue. finding out my rights is more of what im looking at in a word then sue. But when you say you cant fouce a doctor to do something the maining of the word doctor will be mod from what it was before. A doctor is supoost to regardless be for the people and work with them to get well.

some people need treatment the first time and some dont. in my case treatment is not the first thing to look at the first time. once this problem is out in terms of fear then next treatment.

I know your gonna disagree with it i know your gonna try to say other wise but facts are fact even if your with me or not.

I still do feel in my mind that theres something that can be done for anyone who had a unfair time with thses so call doctors.

The fact is that you don't appear to understand or accept the reality of your situation.

This is only one reason why this forum cannot help you.

You need professional help.

 

[king101]

The fact is that you don't appear to understand or accept the reality of your situation.

This is only one reason why this forum cannot help you.

You need professional help.

Agree professional help i with the right kind of folks. You say i dont know reality thats wrong please try again. thanks

 

[cbg]

What that website means is that the doctor will tell you what are appropriate treatments and you can choose which of the options he gives you, you are comfortable with. It does NOT mean that you get to force a doctor to perform tests or treatments that he does not feel are necessary.

 

[ecmst12]

If I was having a psychological fixation on a condition that I logically know there is no evidence of me having, I would be going to a psychologist or psychiatrist and asking for help in getting rid of the fixation. And that is what you should be doing.

 

[king101]

What that website means is that the doctor will tell you what are appropriate treatments and you can choose which of the options he gives you, you are comfortable with. It does NOT mean that you get to force a doctor to perform tests or treatments that he does not feel are necessary.

on that same website it also saids to that each person has the right to goods services to prevent problems.

Plus you keep making this thing saying that the laws are on the doctors side and the doctor dose not have to do nothing and theres nothing you can do and stuff like that.

Even do what you say is true dont you think its a little negitive of a reply now what i maen by that is. You can say the truth but the topic is about how our be love system is.

AND I had in my mind that people regarless if theres any laws or not will and shound have on there minds like me and say that we have a problem with our systems. So even do what you say is true dont someone have in theres mind by saying even do this user makes good points and there are no laws to support it.

his out look of it is pretty good regardless. And i as a person who went to grade school and know a bit about school systems in terms of services. I know that just like this subject with this doctors thing. we got problems with out school systems as well without talking about a teachers pay check there are things i seen in school systems that do not get expose.

Too much of the wrong kinds of folks too much of the wrongs kinds of systems and more. to the point that we gotta some how use what we knoew to make things known and fight.

if anyone dreems to be a leader you must look over what you know and see and be part of something where people at first will disagree and then it gets used to.

Just becuase something has a right dose not mean its right.

If we where to go by everything we see then we will all get talk into anything.

 

[Proserpina]

on that same website it also saids to that each person has the right to goods services to prevent problems.

Plus you keep making this thing saying that the laws are on the doctors side and the doctor dose not have to do nothing and theres nothing you can do and stuff like that.

Even do what you say is true dont you think its a little negitive of a reply now what i maen by that is. You can say the truth but the topic is about how our be love system is.

AND I had in my mind that people regarless if theres any laws or not will and shound have on there minds like me and say that we have a problem with our systems. So even do what you say is true dont someone have in theres mind by saying even do this user makes good points and there are no laws to support it.

his out look of it is pretty good regardless. And i as a person who went to grade school and know a bit about school systems in terms of services. I know that just like this subject with this doctors thing. we got problems with out school systems as well without talking about a teachers pay check there are things i seen in school systems that do not get expose.

Too much of the wrong kinds of folks too much of the wrongs kinds of systems and more. to the point that we gotta some how use what we knoew to make things known and fight.

if anyone dreems to be a leader you must look over what you know and see and be part of something where people at first will disagree and then it gets used to.

Just becuase something has a right dose not mean its right.

If we where to go by everything we see then we will all get talk into anything.

You absolutely need more help than a website can provide.

 

[king101]

If I was having a psychological fixation on a condition that I logically know there is no evidence of me having, I would be going to a psychologist or psychiatrist and asking for help in getting rid of the fixation.* Well to the commen eye yes because we have known and hear before. But there are something's that don't come out that easy. Now I made this post even do I had not had problems as of yet but most of the time it may happen. Mostly, this post is more for people like me. Now let's have a look here to your reply about a* psychiatrist now your comment may hold up to a very very good standerds if the** psychiatrist and the places* has very good mind sets. But alot of the times they don't. In this kind of fear / anxiety, the trickery to this is really the conscious mind.* This kind ofr problem is to where that the** conscious mind does not take the fear that it knows of away by talking to someone or by pills. The same as anger that a person may have on someone no matter how meny times, someone tells them or whatever. if a person is made FOR EXAMPLE, THEN ITS ONLY THAT ONE THING THAT MADE THAT ANGER THAT CAN STOP. MY POINT IS IF A PERSON WITH A FEAR SUCH AS MINE can't GET OVER IT, THEN WE NEED TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL THIS ONLY AP[PLYS IF THE FEAR IS CLOSEABLE* WHERE THE WILL OF WANTING TO GET WELL OF THE FEAR IS THERE, THEN AFTER EVERY THINGT ELSE YOU TRY LIKE TALKING AND FORGETTING ABOUT NOW THE NEXT LEVEL COMES NEXT NOW, AND A SYSTEM IS MADE* WHERE YOU FACE IT BY SOMETHING THAT CAN MAKE THE conscious mind** KNOWN AND RECOMFIRM THAT THERS NOTHING WRONG BUT SOMETHING LIKE ANXITY OR WHATEVER.When you see a* psychiatrist, and this is something that they do not do they are suppost to with kind of problem work without* on it where the first thing they shound do is to study the persons fear and anxiety. They do first is talking about and as they gewt finish with it they are suppost to study the reaction if the fear and find out if there tools work in the stuff they say. If the person saids no* or if they feel that its not enough and if they say that* they try it. then before you give the person meds or whatever, the next level has to be taken in the last attempt* to kill*the persons traumatize problem /fear. We need to go action, so the psychiatrist goes action by setting up the person to do something or have something done where the psychiatrist can get the conscious mind* to reverse the fear where it gets the sick climate back to normal, by facing the fear or by which in my case. the psychiatrist wood send me to to a neurologist. Now the* psychiatrist idea of sending me to a neurologist is to see him and he dose checking on stuff.* The* psychiatrist* gets the results lets the guy* or girl know in session* that theres is nothing wrong with you, you got a problem. the client then starts to feel better that theres nothing wrong.* but he still has the after from being* traumatize, while he gets over the traumatize fear. Now the* psychiatrist can give in treatment pills and diagnose the problem as anxiety or some other kind of mental problem. And that sir how these systems shound work but they do not work like that at all.

Now when you go to a place the irst thing they do is not work to getting over your problem, they will talk a bunch of stuff that does make sense and just ignore the problem and give you pills. Now pills do work to a limit the persons performance will suffer if the fear part will not go away regardless.

so thats why i say to this matter and its very hard to explane that the first thing not to do is to see a psychiatrist becuase alot of them dont have the mind set that that shoud have.

hope this helps mate.

 

[Proserpina]

If I was having a psychological fixation on a condition that I logically know there is no evidence of me having, I would be going to a psychologist or psychiatrist and asking for help in getting rid of the fixation.* Well to the commen eye yes because we have known and hear before. But there are something's that don't come out that easy. Now I made this post even do I had not had problems as of yet but most of the time it may happen. Mostly, this post is more for people like me. Now let's have a look here to your reply about a* psychiatrist now your comment may hold up to a very very good standerds if the** psychiatrist and the places* has very good mind sets. But alot of the times they don't. In this kind of fear / anxiety, the trickery to this is really the conscious mind.* This kind ofr problem is to where that the** conscious mind does not take the fear that it knows of away by talking to someone or by pills. The same as anger that a person may have on someone no matter how meny times, someone tells them or whatever. if a person is made FOR EXAMPLE, THEN ITS ONLY THAT ONE THING THAT MADE THAT ANGER THAT CAN STOP. MY POINT IS IF A PERSON WITH A FEAR SUCH AS MINE can't GET OVER IT, THEN WE NEED TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL THIS ONLY AP[PLYS IF THE FEAR IS CLOSEABLE* WHERE THE WILL OF WANTING TO GET WELL OF THE FEAR IS THERE, THEN AFTER EVERY THINGT ELSE YOU TRY LIKE TALKING AND FORGETTING ABOUT NOW THE NEXT LEVEL COMES NEXT NOW, AND A SYSTEM IS MADE* WHERE YOU FACE IT BY SOMETHING THAT CAN MAKE THE conscious mind** KNOWN AND RECOMFIRM THAT THERS NOTHING WRONG BUT SOMETHING LIKE ANXITY OR WHATEVER.When you see a* psychiatrist, and this is something that they do not do they are suppost to with kind of problem work without* on it where the first thing they shound do is to study the persons fear and anxiety. They do first is talking about and as they gewt finish with it they are suppost to study the reaction if the fear and find out if there tools work in the stuff they say. If the person saids no* or if they feel that its not enough and if they say that* they try it. then before you give the person meds or whatever, the next level has to be taken in the last attempt* to kill*the persons traumatize problem /fear. We need to go action, so the psychiatrist goes action by setting up the person to do something or have something done where the psychiatrist can get the conscious mind* to reverse the fear where it gets the sick climate back to normal, by facing the fear or by which in my case. the psychiatrist wood send me to to a neurologist. Now the* psychiatrist idea of sending me to a neurologist is to see him and he dose checking on stuff.* The* psychiatrist* gets the results lets the guy* or girl know in session* that theres is nothing wrong with you, you got a problem. the client then starts to feel better that theres nothing wrong.* but he still has the after from being* traumatize, while he gets over the traumatize fear. Now the* psychiatrist can give in treatment pills and diagnose the problem as anxiety or some other kind of mental problem. And that sir how these systems shound work but they do not work like that at all.

Now when you go to a place the irst thing they do is not work to getting over your problem, they will talk a bunch of stuff that does make sense and just ignore the problem and give you pills. Now pills do work to a limit the persons performance will suffer if the fear part will not go away regardless.

so thats why i say to this matter and its very hard to explane that the first thing not to do is to see a psychiatrist becuase alot of them dont have the mind set that that shoud have.

hope this helps mate.

You absolutely need more help than a website can provide.

 

[ecmst12]

I'm thinking intensive inpatient treatment is what you need. Fear and anxiety and obsessions can be treated, but the patient has to comply with the treatment, not fight with the doctors.

 

[cbg]

Listen, pal.

I don't care who you see or don't see. You can see a specialist or not, it's all one to me.

The bottom line is, you can argue the point as long as you want but you are NEVER going to find a law that gives you the right to force a doctor to give you the tests or treatment you want if the doctor does not find them appropriate.

Now, if you find that answer too negative, too darned bad. I can't make up a law that will give you a positive answer just to make you happy.

 

[king101]

I'm thinking intensive inpatient treatment is what you need. Fear and anxiety and obsessions can be treated, but the patient has to comply with the treatment, not fight with the doctors.

Its not so much of a fight but whats right. NEXT USERS IN LINE PLEASE.

 

[king101]

im not asking you too give me something nice and I already said that even if there was no laws at all or what ever the pricaple of the way these systems are is just wrong. And I never ask if or not do you care about anything buddy I already know how forums people are.


This thread is more for exposing these kinds of problems that* I seen folks have in my time. so someone that can see my posts and say this guy is on my level of thinking. Your really not hurting me and i already understand everything* that you told me and all others. Thanks man.

 

[>Charlotte<]

im not asking you too give me something nice and I already said that even if there was no laws at all or what ever the pricaple of the way these systems are is just wrong. And I never ask if or not do you care about anything buddy I already know how forums people are.


This thread is more for exposing these kinds of problems that* I seen folks have in my time. so someone that can see my posts and say this guy is on my level of thinking. Your really not hurting me and i already understand everything* that you told me and all others. Thanks man.

That's not what this forum is for. It is not a community bulletin board, a place to vent, or a forum for you to "expose" anyone. It is a place for legal questions and legal answers. You have been answered, and this thread is done.

 

[Isis1]

You said that i was exposing who did i say any names no. we are talking a subject. Most of the people on here i see are not even pro's but just simple people like me. You have been reply too now. NEXT person please!

this thread is STILL live?

good grief man. the doctor is not your indentured servent. slavery ended a few decades ago. did you not get the notice?

and what you this is unfair, may not be actually unfair. it's just not your way. and your throwing a tantrum about it.

please go see another doctor and lock your thread. you need to use your energies in a proper manner.