You have the right to seek custody & visitation orders.
Which shall we recap? I said this in my first post:
If you don't have court orders for custody and visitation, THAT is the only course of action. Why wouldn't you pursue that as a reasonable, rational, mature adult?
I gave him the benefit of being reasonable, rational and mature. That was my mistake.
He responded with:
Well the courts are not exactly known as a pro father environment and my recollections in court rooms with lawyers as a child is not something I am in a rush to pass on to my daughter.
I responded with:
A) Courts are NOT pro anyone but the child. But continue with that attitude and you will find yourself being proven correct;
B) Only an idiot takes their child to court or around lawyers -- the child should NOT be involved in a court room;
C) You really need to educate yourself;
D) Apparently the woman you impregnated isn't pro father either and you have no rights.
E) Carry on with this then.
And then the insults started:
A) Clearly you've been living under a rock, there is evidence galore that shows mothers are routinely favored in custody cases and that only recently has the trend begun to change;
B) Only a court appointed lawyer for your children can have your child come in and be spoken to as was the case in my circumstance, every case is different and assuming the latter is rather ignorant;
C) You really need to educate yourself;
D) What she thinks is irrelevant and most likely why the emotions of a woman are not just cause to deny a father visitation in the eyes of the mighty impartial court;
Oh and the above is after Mother edited.
And then there is this gem:
In one breath you say the courts consider what is in the best interest of a child and in the next you say a father has no rights. Clearly you're assuming I'm a dead beat and have never set foot in a court, I mean I probably don't even know if thats my kid right LOL? I wonder what your case record is ... is that public record? Regardless the mother can do and say whatever she likes without court orders but when she has to explain how her actions are consistent with best interest she'll be hard pressed. Even in the worst case scenario when she has to be held accountable for her actions I'd end up with every other weekend and some mid week visits, no mother will ever completely erase a willing father from their child's life with the courts consent. If you're a lawyer you're probably not a very good one and if you are show me some proof, let me see some numbers Clown College grad
I then told him my education and such. And what do I get? OH yeah, told that certain people don't kneel at my alter. Guess what? Apparently, it is fine if I am insulted, criticized and jumped but if I defend myself I am in the wrong. Got it.
And yet, I still tried to educate this guy. So why am I in the wrong for defending myself? Why am I in the wrong for continuing to try to help OP out of his ignorance? Apparently because I am easy to jump on by whoever is having a bad day. Got it.
