Speeding Ticket Ohio Airplane
Hello Nova 130;
First thing is this; You need to do a whole bunch of research on the code you violated, what is required on the ticket, everything.
And, you need to get real. Very real.
Beyond that observation, you have stated nothing about why you think you have a case.
He didn't ask for your registration? That scoundrel! We'll make him stay late and wash the squad cars. That'll teach him.
Your point on this was just, what ?
Part B restriction; I have no idea what that is but sounds thoroughly unimportant.
Charging officer and Issuing officer. Do some research.
Start here; "4511.091 Arrest or citation of driver based on radar, timing device or radio message from another officer".
You need to learn who can or must sign the ticket & when.
Here is a clue, estimating/ clocking speed of cars from aircraft is common. Ohio seems to be the champion on this technique.
Good luck.
There are guidelines and rules as to how they do it.
Do your research. You need to understand what Charging and Issuing officer information is and how it is used. Not just about using aircraft.
Reckless driving. In some places, 100 mph is considered Reckless Driving. At certain speeds, they yank you and your car off the road as a safety issue. You are in jail for a few hours, and your car is towed, you pay the tow charges. They might hold it for several days.
I am glad there are cops out there grabbing people like you.
Usually at that point, you have reached reckless driving.
The guy I helped convict who tailgated me 4 ft off my bumper at 65 mph for half a mile, eventually running into me,
by odd chance, seen by a NH Trooper who hauled after him, passing me on the exit ramp when the guy would not stop,
lost his license for 3 months and had a $500 fine.
As for the citation, from the aircraft, I am a pilot.
In CA, at an airshow a trooper CHiPS guy was there with his Cessna 180. Very nice guy.
He explained how they clock vehicles from the air. It is timing obviously, not radar or laser.
It sounded more complicated than it should be, but they do it, it works.
They even have a loudspeaker on the outside of the plane to broadcast and tell you to pull over!
There are hundreds of marks on the roadway set as measured distances.
They use stopwatches, the watches must be calibrated at certain time intervals, every 6 months perhaps, just like radar units.
The times written on the ticket must match between the 2 officers.
Just like any traffic infraction, there are rules, guidelines and laws.
Don't believe they have to time you for a mile, or half a mile.
You might find there are many marks close together, which makes it easier.
Spot someone going fast. Keep an eye on him, look for him accelerating very fast, look for first mark on the road, click stopwatch,
Click again 5 or 10 seconds later.
Radio the info down to the car on the road.
They might use 3 stopwatches and have you timed at three different sections of road.
Your terrific graphic account of the cars, the lanes, the speed, the big truck, the 60, the 65, the 70, the 100 and the 10 seconds are all very enlightening. I just wonder how anyone can be so involved and specific about such detail but think it hardly possible at all for someone to clock you at 100 mph. Here is another clue. I'll bet you were going 110 at one point. Maybe faster.
So, like any ticket, you want to win, go do your research.
Find the reason(s) you might win, and go take your chances.
But if your grasp of things, as I perceive them now, from this post, being a 2,
(I assume someone could be a 1, even a little more clueless than you),
you would have to get up to about 20 just to be in the same game as the cops and the judge.
That is how much work you need to do.
You need to say, and prove, they did it wrong, they busted the rules,
the stopwatch was the wrong type/ brand, not calibrated, the times were wrong on the ticket,
they grabbed the wrong car, the sun was in his eyes, he had doughnut dust all over his sunglasses and couldn't see,
wrong signatures, in the wrong places, etc.
I've done enough research for others in the 6 days I've been on this site.
otherwise, Slow down
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Hello Nova 130;
First thing is this; You need to do a whole bunch of research on the code you violated, what is required on the ticket, everything.
And, you need to get real. Very real.
Beyond that observation, you have stated nothing about why you think you have a case.
He didn't ask for your registration? That scoundrel! We'll make him stay late and wash the squad cars. That'll teach him.
Your point on this was just, what ?
Part B restriction; I have no idea what that is but sounds thoroughly unimportant.
Charging officer and Issuing officer. Do some research.
Start here; "4511.091 Arrest or citation of driver based on radar, timing device or radio message from another officer".
You need to learn who can or must sign the ticket & when.
Here is a clue, estimating/ clocking speed of cars from aircraft is common. Ohio seems to be the champion on this technique.
Good luck.
There are guidelines and rules as to how they do it.
Do your research. You need to understand what Charging and Issuing officer information is and how it is used. Not just about using aircraft.
Reckless driving. In some places, 100 mph is considered Reckless Driving. At certain speeds, they yank you and your car off the road as a safety issue. You are in jail for a few hours, and your car is towed, you pay the tow charges. They might hold it for several days.
I am glad there are cops out there grabbing people like you.
Usually at that point, you have reached reckless driving.
The guy I helped convict who tailgated me 4 ft off my bumper at 65 mph for half a mile, eventually running into me,
by odd chance, seen by a NH Trooper who hauled after him, passing me on the exit ramp when the guy would not stop,
lost his license for 3 months and had a $500 fine.
As for the citation, from the aircraft, I am a pilot.
In CA, at an airshow a trooper CHiPS guy was there with his Cessna 180. Very nice guy.
He explained how they clock vehicles from the air. It is timing obviously, not radar or laser.
It sounded more complicated than it should be, but they do it, it works.
They even have a loudspeaker on the outside of the plane to broadcast and tell you to pull over!
There are hundreds of marks on the roadway set as measured distances.
They use stopwatches, the watches must be calibrated at certain time intervals, every 6 months perhaps, just like radar units.
The times written on the ticket must match between the 2 officers.
Just like any traffic infraction, there are rules, guidelines and laws.
Don't believe they have to time you for a mile, or half a mile.
You might find there are many marks close together, which makes it easier.
Spot someone going fast. Keep an eye on him, look for him accelerating very fast, look for first mark on the road, click stopwatch,
Click again 5 or 10 seconds later.
Radio the info down to the car on the road.
They might use 3 stopwatches and have you timed at three different sections of road.
Your terrific graphic account of the cars, the lanes, the speed, the big truck, the 60, the 65, the 70, the 100 and the 10 seconds are all very enlightening. I just wonder how anyone can be so involved and specific about such detail but think it hardly possible at all for someone to clock you at 100 mph. Here is another clue. I'll bet you were going 110 at one point. Maybe faster.
So, like any ticket, you want to win, go do your research.
Find the reason(s) you might win, and go take your chances.
But if your grasp of things, as I perceive them now, from this post, being a 2,
(I assume someone could be a 1, even a little more clueless than you),
you would have to get up to about 20 just to be in the same game as the cops and the judge.
That is how much work you need to do.
You need to say, and prove, they did it wrong, they busted the rules,
the stopwatch was the wrong type/ brand, not calibrated, the times were wrong on the ticket,
they grabbed the wrong car, the sun was in his eyes, he had doughnut dust all over his sunglasses and couldn't see,
wrong signatures, in the wrong places, etc.
I've done enough research for others in the 6 days I've been on this site.
otherwise, Slow down
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