What is the name of your state? California
Will try to make this as clear stated as possible:
In May this year, I was given a 3 day notice to quit, I am bi-polar and panicked, started looking for housing, found a house with 2 Women renting the house from the owner, they have one bedroom and are on the lease, 1 Man renting same house from the owner, He is on the lease and only has a portion of the living room as his "rental space", 1 Man renting the garage (living in it) of the house, He is not on the lease. I was offered the second bedroom (Two bedroom, one bath house) for $550 plus a portion of the utilities to be determined.
I know I should have asked more questions before moving in but my bi-polar anxiety and panic attacks were kicking in and I was frantic to find a place before the three days were up for me to move from the other place, so I said okay, gave $225 for May 16-May 31, and $550 for June rent (Moved in May 16 as agreed on, so rent was prorated (sp?) for May, and I am on disability so like to stay ahead of the rent so pay early on the rent for the next month ~ No lease was signed, no exact amounts given for utilites except they would include: Water/trash/sewer (all one bill), Electricity, Gas, Cable (More on the cable in a few sentences) and Internet.
Now I "assumed" 5 tenants so rent of $1200 a month would be split 5 ways ~ NOPE ~ The gentleman who lives in part of the living room pays $300, the gentleman who lives in the garage pays $400 and I pay $550 that adds up to $1250, so the two women who live in the other bedroom are paying none of the rent ~
Now I recently paid $50 for utilities for May, $100 for utilites for June and $100 for utilities for July ~ None of the bills being shown to be or asked for, just I like I said like to stay ahead, however on Social Security Disability I cannot afford to pay $550 per month rent and $100 for utilites every month and explained this to the two women who are acting as "Landlords" to the rest of us ~
I also paid an agreed upon amount of $300 for a security deposit, this was used by one of the women to buy a computer which I agreed upon and said I would give her another $300 the next day to replace the security deposit money but since I would now have paid her $600 ~ she would owe me $300 ~ We talked and agreed that she would rather than pay me back the $300, put $100 each month starting in August to my part of the utilities, which means I am now paid up till October on the utilities.
BUT recently the two women decided they wanted to either A. Make the two men pay their part of the utilities which neither one can afford and both took their respective living spaces, which in their original "verbal" agreements included utilities (one the living room, the other the garage) or B. Take in another Tenant to share the living room with the one Man who "lives" in the living and is on the lease. When asked how the utilities would be divided, we received vague answers and it "sounds" like as the three of us (Myself and the two men) are paying the WHOLE of the rent ($1200) plus an extra $50 per month between us (Remember Man 1 = $300 per month, Man 2 = $400 per month and myself = $550 per month ~ Total of $1250 when rent is $1200)
I BELIEVE the original landlord has no knowledge of anyone living there but the two women and the one man.
Now today we all got together and talked about the fact that the three of us are paying for the whole rent plus an extra $50 per month and the two women are paying nothing, and we are getting vague answers on how much the utility bills are each month and the splitting of them (It sounds like the two women again want to split the utility bills among myself and the two men and they pay nothing) ~ When questioned about them paying none of the rent and the possibility of them paying none of the utilities they told myself and the three men it was none of our business what THEY paid and if we did not like it when we first talked to them about moving in we did not have to move in (although NONE of this was explained when I first moved in and I don't think it was explained to either of the two men when they moved in either (one came with the two women from an apartment complex they shared) and could find other accomodations if we wanted to move.
Almost forgot about the cable, myself in my room and the man in the living room get basic cable so figured that would be a low cost, only found out today the two women actually have ordered and have a cable box in their room for basic cable plus all the premium channels ~ (Myself and the gentlemen don't get that as we don't have the cable box's just the cables that connect to the TV's) and we brought that up as if we don't get the premium channels (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, Etc) we should not have to pay for it, their answer was again vague and they would have to "go over the bill"
I guess my question is can they get away with playing "Landlord" and living here for Free paying no part of the rent
or utilities? Or ????????????????
Call me confused in California
Marsha
Will try to make this as clear stated as possible:
In May this year, I was given a 3 day notice to quit, I am bi-polar and panicked, started looking for housing, found a house with 2 Women renting the house from the owner, they have one bedroom and are on the lease, 1 Man renting same house from the owner, He is on the lease and only has a portion of the living room as his "rental space", 1 Man renting the garage (living in it) of the house, He is not on the lease. I was offered the second bedroom (Two bedroom, one bath house) for $550 plus a portion of the utilities to be determined.
I know I should have asked more questions before moving in but my bi-polar anxiety and panic attacks were kicking in and I was frantic to find a place before the three days were up for me to move from the other place, so I said okay, gave $225 for May 16-May 31, and $550 for June rent (Moved in May 16 as agreed on, so rent was prorated (sp?) for May, and I am on disability so like to stay ahead of the rent so pay early on the rent for the next month ~ No lease was signed, no exact amounts given for utilites except they would include: Water/trash/sewer (all one bill), Electricity, Gas, Cable (More on the cable in a few sentences) and Internet.
Now I "assumed" 5 tenants so rent of $1200 a month would be split 5 ways ~ NOPE ~ The gentleman who lives in part of the living room pays $300, the gentleman who lives in the garage pays $400 and I pay $550 that adds up to $1250, so the two women who live in the other bedroom are paying none of the rent ~
Now I recently paid $50 for utilities for May, $100 for utilites for June and $100 for utilities for July ~ None of the bills being shown to be or asked for, just I like I said like to stay ahead, however on Social Security Disability I cannot afford to pay $550 per month rent and $100 for utilites every month and explained this to the two women who are acting as "Landlords" to the rest of us ~
I also paid an agreed upon amount of $300 for a security deposit, this was used by one of the women to buy a computer which I agreed upon and said I would give her another $300 the next day to replace the security deposit money but since I would now have paid her $600 ~ she would owe me $300 ~ We talked and agreed that she would rather than pay me back the $300, put $100 each month starting in August to my part of the utilities, which means I am now paid up till October on the utilities.
BUT recently the two women decided they wanted to either A. Make the two men pay their part of the utilities which neither one can afford and both took their respective living spaces, which in their original "verbal" agreements included utilities (one the living room, the other the garage) or B. Take in another Tenant to share the living room with the one Man who "lives" in the living and is on the lease. When asked how the utilities would be divided, we received vague answers and it "sounds" like as the three of us (Myself and the two men) are paying the WHOLE of the rent ($1200) plus an extra $50 per month between us (Remember Man 1 = $300 per month, Man 2 = $400 per month and myself = $550 per month ~ Total of $1250 when rent is $1200)
I BELIEVE the original landlord has no knowledge of anyone living there but the two women and the one man.
Now today we all got together and talked about the fact that the three of us are paying for the whole rent plus an extra $50 per month and the two women are paying nothing, and we are getting vague answers on how much the utility bills are each month and the splitting of them (It sounds like the two women again want to split the utility bills among myself and the two men and they pay nothing) ~ When questioned about them paying none of the rent and the possibility of them paying none of the utilities they told myself and the three men it was none of our business what THEY paid and if we did not like it when we first talked to them about moving in we did not have to move in (although NONE of this was explained when I first moved in and I don't think it was explained to either of the two men when they moved in either (one came with the two women from an apartment complex they shared) and could find other accomodations if we wanted to move.
Almost forgot about the cable, myself in my room and the man in the living room get basic cable so figured that would be a low cost, only found out today the two women actually have ordered and have a cable box in their room for basic cable plus all the premium channels ~ (Myself and the gentlemen don't get that as we don't have the cable box's just the cables that connect to the TV's) and we brought that up as if we don't get the premium channels (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, Etc) we should not have to pay for it, their answer was again vague and they would have to "go over the bill"
I guess my question is can they get away with playing "Landlord" and living here for Free paying no part of the rent
or utilities? Or ????????????????
Call me confused in California
Marsha
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