education expenses

[Username2005]

I'm sorry....
1) preschool is not a requirment....I'm sure by "education costs" the law mean regular elementary/middle/high school registration and costs. Even if ajudge went along with it, if I were Dad I would pay no more than half and pay it directly to the preschool. Remnember costs like this is what CS is for in the first place.

2) I don't see how anyone could try to claim "daycare exenses" when theyt only work part time and from home.

And I just don't buy that there is no free or income based preschool. Nearly all states/counties have some form of Head Start program. That's just my opinion....I could be wrong.

I've called the county about head start programs and they only offer the program tochildren who are disabled or have special needs. I'm not trying to claim "daycare expenses". Preschool is educational, not daycare or childcare. Dad doesn't want visitation much less custody.

 

[Username2005]

Thanks for everyone's advice. I guess I will mention preschool at the child support conference and find out what ncp and conference officer has to say about it. Thanks.

 

[stealth2]

I've called the county about head start programs and they only offer the program tochildren who are disabled or have special needs. I'm not trying to claim "daycare expenses". Preschool is educational, not daycare or childcare. Dad doesn't want visitation much less custody.

You don't listen very well.

If Dad is not willing to place the child in an educational situation that is not required, he will likely NOT be required to help pay for it. If, however, you require care for the child (and preschool CAN be considered daycare) while you WORK, you MAY have a shot at getting some help with that.

 

[MrsK]

I can not work full time, although I wish I could. I am on disability. Preschool is not a legal requirement but is it too much to ask for father to help pay a portion? The guidelines say extra education expenses can be included when determining the child support amount. I'm not sure exactly what extra education expenses include.

If you do not NEED the childcare due to work, I would not count on getting any money to help for preschool expenses and it would be dishonest of you to say you need the child to be watched while you are working PT if you really do not, which since you have been making due, you must not. I work PT from home as well and I do not need anyone to watch my children, I do my work during their naps or later at night. Find another way to pay for it.

 

[Username2005]

I never said I needed childcare/preschool while I worked and I was not planning on saying that and/or being dishonest. I just think it would be a great educational opportunity for my child and if ncp agrees as well as the conference officer then that would be great if he could help pay for it. And by the way, I listened to what everyone said and I am great listener. Let's not jump to the conclusion that I was going to be dishonest.

 

[Gracie3787]

I am the CP and I receive a small amount of child support from NCP (around 200 a month). Our child will begin preschool this fall. We have a review hearing in Feb. and the child support order is in Arizona.
Can I request an increase in the support amount to help cover the cost of preschool?

Have you read your CS order? Quite often, child care costs are already added into the monthly CS amount. If your order doesn't specify if child care is included, call your CSE worker and ask about it.

 

[imbackhome]

Wish people were more supportive...

I am shocked at the nasty and judgmental attitudes of so many people who post here.
I think there must be an awful lot of redwood sized chips on shoulders.
Without the benefit of knowing the full picture, so many of you slam people, tell them to work full time, and assume that NCP's would like full custody.
That's just not how plenty of this world works.
My NCP said he wanted full custody, but when push came to shove, he couldn't/didn't follow through with even 25%, let along 100%.
My NCP dumped a *very* well paying work from home flexible job, for a part-time, little more than minimum wage job to avoid CS.
I took a part-time shift job so I could work when he did have the kids and neither of us would have to pay child care, which in our case would be exhorbitant as the kids cannot attend regular child care due to disability and serious health issues. There's not an employer on earth who would emplo y me full-time in a regular professional day job (which I used to have) as my kids attend around 340 medical/therapy/hospital appointments each year.
Anyway, I wrote this to support the original poster. Don't let the jerks get you down.
This place aught to be called "FreeSlamming.com" not "FreeAdvice.com".
Apologies to those who do have relevent, useful, supportive info, but that certainly wasn't my experience...

 

[moburkes]

I am shocked at the nasty and judgmental attitudes of so many people who post here.
I think there must be an awful lot of redwood sized chips on shoulders.
Without the benefit of knowing the full picture, so many of you slam people, tell them to work full time, and assume that NCP's would like full custody.
That's just not how plenty of this world works.
My NCP said he wanted full custody, but when push came to shove, he couldn't/didn't follow through with even 25%, let along 100%.
My NCP dumped a *very* well paying work from home flexible job, for a part-time, little more than minimum wage job to avoid CS.
I took a part-time shift job so I could work when he did have the kids and neither of us would have to pay child care, which in our case would be exhorbitant as the kids cannot attend regular child care due to disability and serious health issues. There's not an employer on earth who would emplo y me full-time in a regular professional day job (which I used to have) as my kids attend around 340 medical/therapy/hospital appointments each year.
Anyway, I wrote this to support the original poster. Don't let the jerks get you down.
This place aught to be called "FreeSlamming.com" not "FreeAdvice.com".
Apologies to those who do have relevent, useful, supportive info, but that certainly wasn't my experience...

You're the one with the attitude. The one person who was judgmental, in my opinion, I responded directly to. The rest of the people are posting factual responses. You also have to understand that, when someone posts, there may have been 1- or 12 posts before theirs, in which they might have gotten a "fact" or two mixed up. Please. People make mistakes. People judge. Go live in a cave if you are sensitive to it. She's received good information from different people.

 

[MrsK]

I never said I needed childcare/preschool while I worked and I was not planning on saying that and/or being dishonest. I just think it would be a great educational opportunity for my child and if ncp agrees as well as the conference officer then that would be great if he could help pay for it. And by the way, I listened to what everyone said and I am great listener. Let's not jump to the conclusion that I was going to be dishonest.

I did not jump to the conclusion that you would be dishonest, I just said it WOULD BE dishonest for you to say you need childcare to work from home, all of a sudden, when you never needed it before.

Again, if the NCP doesnt agree, you can ask for it in court, but I think you have a VERY small chance of it being awarded, so you may want to find another way to pay for it.

 

[MrsK]

I am shocked at the nasty and judgmental attitudes of so many people who post here.
I think there must be an awful lot of redwood sized chips on shoulders.
Without the benefit of knowing the full picture, so many of you slam people, tell them to work full time, and assume that NCP's would like full custody.
That's just not how plenty of this world works.
My NCP said he wanted full custody, but when push came to shove, he couldn't/didn't follow through with even 25%, let along 100%.
My NCP dumped a *very* well paying work from home flexible job, for a part-time, little more than minimum wage job to avoid CS.
I took a part-time shift job so I could work when he did have the kids and neither of us would have to pay child care, which in our case would be exhorbitant as the kids cannot attend regular child care due to disability and serious health issues. There's not an employer on earth who would emplo y me full-time in a regular professional day job (which I used to have) as my kids attend around 340 medical/therapy/hospital appointments each year.
Anyway, I wrote this to support the original poster. Don't let the jerks get you down.
This place aught to be called "FreeSlamming.com" not "FreeAdvice.com".
Apologies to those who do have relevent, useful, supportive info, but that certainly wasn't my experience...

In the words of Justin Timberlake...

Cry me a river
(Go on and just)
Cry me a river-er
(Baby go on and just)
Cry me a river
(You can go on and just)
Cry me a river-er, yea yea

 

[Ohiogal]

I've called the county about head start programs and they only offer the program tochildren who are disabled or have special needs. I'm not trying to claim "daycare expenses". Preschool is educational, not daycare or childcare. Dad doesn't want visitation much less custody.

Now you have me confused -- you state in another post:
" took a part-time shift job so I could work when he did have the kids and neither of us would have to pay child care, which in our case would be exhorbitant as the kids cannot attend regular child care due to disability and serious health issues. "

So hence they WOULD qualify for head start and not cost anything. preschool is not something that dad would be FORCED to pay for.

 

[GrowUp!]

I am shocked at the nasty and judgmental attitudes of so many people who post here.
I think there must be an awful lot of redwood sized chips on shoulders.
Without the benefit of knowing the full picture, so many of you slam people, tell them to work full time, and assume that NCP's would like full custody.
That's just not how plenty of this world works.
My NCP said he wanted full custody, but when push came to shove, he couldn't/didn't follow through with even 25%, let along 100%.
My NCP dumped a *very* well paying work from home flexible job, for a part-time, little more than minimum wage job to avoid CS.
I took a part-time shift job so I could work when he did have the kids and neither of us would have to pay child care, which in our case would be exhorbitant as the kids cannot attend regular child care due to disability and serious health issues. There's not an employer on earth who would emplo y me full-time in a regular professional day job (which I used to have) as my kids attend around 340 medical/therapy/hospital appointments each year.
Anyway, I wrote this to support the original poster. Don't let the jerks get you down.
This place aught to be called "FreeSlamming.com" not "FreeAdvice.com".
Apologies to those who do have relevent, useful, supportive info, but that certainly wasn't my experience...

Obviously you missed the part about this site being site for LEGAL advice. Not a shoulder to cry on.

For that, may I suggest Dr. Phil or Dr. Keith Ablow (hurry before he gets cancelled). You can even try Greg Behrendt, but he's already been cancelled. Perhaps the show is still in production, so maybe you have enough time to get on a show.

Preschool is NOT required. Just like extra-curricular activities are NOT required. If a parent is so bent on enrolling a child into something, then THAT parent can pay for it. Cant afford it? Oh well. There are people who can't afford to put gas in their car.

 

[haiku]

Now you have me confused -- you state in another post:
" took a part-time shift job so I could work when he did have the kids and neither of us would have to pay child care, which in our case would be exhorbitant as the kids cannot attend regular child care due to disability and serious health issues. "

So hence they WOULD qualify for head start and not cost anything. preschool is not something that dad would be FORCED to pay for.

what you quote is from a DIFFERENT poster "imbackhome" and NOT the OP.

i di dthe sam ething you did and read it about 3 times before I realized it!

 

[Ohiogal]

what you quote is from a DIFFERENT poster "imbackhome" and NOT the OP.

i di dthe sam ething you did and read it about 3 times before I realized it!

My apologies to misunderstanding the OP. I hate when people hijack threads. imbackhome get your own thread.