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legalseeker

Junior Member
CO - Life insurance – only known beneficiary (spouse) deceased. Does payout default to surviving sibling or does it payout default to estate admin? How might step children (unofficial or adopted) and their descendants factor in? Thanks.What is the name of your state?
 


Dandy Don

Senior Member
Is there a record of either or both spouses having a last will and testament that was probated?

What is the payout amount?

What has the insurance company said when asked about this situation?

DANDY DON IN OKLAHOMA ([email protected])
 

legalseeker

Junior Member
Will had residuary estate going to person named as secondary personal representative (PR). Primary is deceased. PR said in the case of Life insurance, it went to surviving sibling when all benefactors are deceased. PR discouraged sibling filing and refused death certs. Ins Co knew sibling was in process of submitting paper but paid out 2 days before sibling filing. Entire sum went to PR. Ins would not disclose amount due to privacy issues and amount(?). Ins would not provide explanation other than they worked it out with the PR.
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
Will had residuary estate going to person named as secondary personal representative (PR). Primary is deceased. PR said in the case of Life insurance, it went to surviving sibling when all benefactors are deceased. PR discouraged sibling filing and refused death certs. Ins Co knew sibling was in process of submitting paper but paid out 2 days before sibling filing. Entire sum went to PR. Ins would not disclose amount due to privacy issues and amount(?). Ins would not provide explanation other than they worked it out with the PR.
Insurance company was correct. Without a contingent beneficiary the funds go to the estate and is ruled by either the will, or in case of no will, intestate succession.
 

Betty

Senior Member
Yep - if primary bene deceased & no contingent bene named, life ins. proceeds will "become part of deceased insured's will"/estate & end up in probate court. You indicate deceased insured did have a will.
edited to add - If the will indicates that life ins. proceeds are to go to surviving sibling if the life ins. bene is not living, then the PR should take this in consideration when administering/distributing the estate.
 
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legalseeker

Junior Member
Yep - if primary bene deceased & no contingent bene named, life ins. proceeds will "become part of deceased insured's will"/estate & end up in probate court. You indicate deceased insured did have a will.
edited to add - If the will indicates that life ins. proceeds are to go to surviving sibling if the life ins. bene is not living, then the PR should take this in consideration when administering/distributing the estate.
So the sibling rule is not real in CO when beneficiaries are deceased?

Does the sibling have any recourse in probate and is there a time limit. As with some cases, the deceased would have wanted a slightly different outcome but never updated the old will. Exec cut out all other family. Decease expressed he want some to have a few personal effects but distribution did not occur before untimely death. Sibling was interested in a "good faith" distriibution of at least the life insurance and a handfull of personal effects.
 

josey

Junior Member
Insurance company was correct. Without a contingent beneficiary the funds go to the estate and is ruled by either the will, or in case of no will, intestate succession.
Would the funds go into the insured's estate or the beneficiary's estate - assuming they are both deceased and that no other beneficiaries are listed on the policy?
 

moburkes

Senior Member
So the sibling rule is not real in CO when beneficiaries are deceased?

Does the sibling have any recourse in probate and is there a time limit. As with some cases, the deceased would have wanted a slightly different outcome but never updated the old will. Exec cut out all other family. Decease expressed he want some to have a few personal effects but distribution did not occur before untimely death. Sibling was interested in a "good faith" distriibution of at least the life insurance and a handfull of personal effects.
What they wanted isn't what they did. This is the problem when people don't update their legal documents. Legal documents will outweigh verbal wishes. The exec didn't cut other family out. The person who didn't update their life insurance cut other family out. Not what people want to hear, though...

What sibling wouldn't be interested in a "good faith" distribution? Seriously?
 

josey

Junior Member
If the beneficiary dies first (7 years ago) and the person who took out the policy dies later (4 years ago), whose estate would receive the proceeds (South Carolina)? There was no other beneficiary named and both parties had wills. This was only discovered 2 years ago. Can the executor of the beneficiary's estate (one of three equal heirs named in the will) sign away the rights of the other two?
 

moburkes

Senior Member
If the beneficiary dies first (7 years ago) and the person who took out the policy dies later (4 years ago), whose estate would receive the proceeds (South Carolina)? There was no other beneficiary named and both parties had wills. This was only discovered 2 years ago. Can the executor of the beneficiary's estate (one of three equal heirs named in the will) sign away the rights of the other two?
I'm confused. In the original post you put "CO" which I thought meant Colorado. Now you're asking about South Carolina. Which is it? Also, WHAT was only discovered 2 years ago?
 

BlondiePB

Senior Member
If the beneficiary dies first (7 years ago) and the person who took out the policy dies later (4 years ago), whose estate would receive the proceeds (South Carolina)? There was no other beneficiary named and both parties had wills. This was only discovered 2 years ago. Can the executor of the beneficiary's estate (one of three equal heirs named in the will) sign away the rights of the other two?
Start your own thread josey rather than hijacking this one. This confusion by people replying is a perfect example of what happens when somone hijacks the original poster's thread.
 

BlondiePB

Senior Member
Does payout default to surviving sibling or does it payout default to estate admin?
The payout was/is to be payable to the estate of the deceased.
Will had residuary estate going to person named as secondary personal representative (PR).
The residuary estate, that includes monies from the life insurance payable to the estate, goes to the designated beneficiary who is the secondary PR via the probate process.
 

josey

Junior Member
Oops. So sorry. I've never been in a forum before. I'll learn the rules/protocol and will try not to mess up again! josey
 

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