Neighbors dog killed ours.(long)sorry

[jypsy_rose_lee]

Neither you or Liz could possibly find any data to back up your broad, general, and totally incorrect statements. Rotties and Pits are no more likely to attack than any other breed. They simply cause more damage when they do. There are not bad dogs, there are bad owners. And uninformed others.

Bull!!! I'm sure if I search the net I could find something in regards to these types of dogs, and the reason for their overly vicious nature. When you read the newspaper, and nearly everyday someone in some state has been mauled to death by one of these types of devil dogs thats all I need to know! These dogs don't just bite they kill ! What other breed of dogs have you read about, or know about that have actually killed someone? Sure, alot of dogs have it in their nature to defend themselves if they are cornered by someone being mean to them, but the breed of dogs in question go after peaple, or other animals for no reason what so ever. There was a lady in her 80's in Kansas City, Mo who was out working in her garden. Two pits were inside a fence in the yard next to her. They would bark at her everytime she went to her garden, till finally they got out, and mauled the old lady to death! I just couldn't imagine any of my collies doing this, or a beegle, a pug, a lab, a dashound, a Saint Bernard ( only Cugo} ect.... ect... So no, not all breeds of dogs are like this!

 

[moburkes]

Why is your "they don't just bite they kill" different from fair's "they do more damage"?

 

[nextwife]

They simply cause more damage when they do.

Which in itself is a danged GOOD reason to limit them. There's nothing "simple" about it.

In WI, for example, only professionals are allowed to shoot off fireworks: because they cause more damage than a sparkler would if in the wrong hands.

Any breed that is ONLY safe to others and other pets IF a certain devoted, attentive and highly responsible type of person is their owner/trainer does NOT belong in our communities. A dog that's the canine equivilant of a hand grenade (it can go off in the wrong hands, but doesn't always go off), simply isn't worth the risk. Considering all the alternative, perfectly acceptable breeds that exist out there that DON"T create these hazards, there is NO reason to bring dogs into our communities that have a propensity of horribly damaging others when they attack. Should I be allowed to raise lions in my yard? They are ONLY dangerous if they escape and IF they attack?

 

[jypsy_rose_lee]

Why is your "they don't just bite they kill" different from fair's "they do more damage"?

They are not known to do just more damage, they have been known to kill. There is a difference, to damage is to injure, not kill!

 

[moburkes]

They are not known to do just more damage, they have been known to kill. There is a difference, to damage is to injure, not kill!

And, injuries can cause death. Even small injuries can cause death, if the "right" body part is injured.

 

[jypsy_rose_lee]

And, injuries can cause death. Even small injuries can cause death, if the "right" body part is injured.

Your right ! Injuries caused by these dogs can be minor or fatal, but most often fatal! I said kill to be more specific as to what these types of breeds are capable of doing.

 

[lizjimbo]

gypsy do a search

If your daughter thinks pits are quaint little puppies, do a search of pit bull kills child in Virginia. It was the family "pet". For the previous poster, I cannot debate with people that refuse to research, even a smidgen. You must have internet access, so search. You can have your doggy, just don't let him anywhere near me.

 

[jypsy_rose_lee]

If your daughter thinks pits are quaint little puppies, do a search of pit bull kills child in Virginia. It was the family "pet". For the previous poster, I cannot debate with people that refuse to research, even a smidgen. You must have internet access, so search. You can have your doggy, just don't let him anywhere near me.

It's my daughter in law who has the pit puppy. My daughter is also worried about my grandkids safety as the dog gits bigger. So, there was a child killed by a pit bull in Virginia? We also had a child killed by a pit here in Missouri a few years back. The dog went right for the jugular veins. The little girl bled to death before reaching the hospital.The pit, if I remember right was a family pet.
Anyway, OP if your are still reading posts, make sure the owner or the person watching the Rot is legally held responsible for what happened to your dog. If their not, they will just be irresponsible again, and hurt another animal in the process.

 

[lizjimbo]

Sorry about the screw up jypsy

I mean daughter in law. Yes, there have been a few children killed by the family "pet pit/rotty" here in Virginia in the past 18 months. There has also been an 83 year old lady killed by a pack of pits right here in my county. The person that owned the pits was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 3 years in prison. Finally the state leg acted and has come up with some meaningful laws meant to protect us from dangerous dogs. Now then, just like any law, it only protects us if others obey the law. But a felony charge for allowing a dangerous dog to run at large will get peoples attention. Now I have Chihuahuas that are just about the nastiest dogs alive, however they do not constitute a danger. Mostly pits and rottys. I'm a land surveyor and I have gone in yards where German Sheperds and/or Dobermans reside. Those dogs are quite frankly more afraid of me than I am of them. I encourage them to get to know me and we have fun while I'm there. Rottys and Pits on the other hand are a different story. I probably have more experiences with different breeds than most people just by the nature of my work. Rottys and pits are by far the most dangerous.

 

[jypsy_rose_lee]

I mean daughter in law. Yes, there have been a few children killed by the family "pet pit/rotty" here in Virginia in the past 18 months. There has also been an 83 year old lady killed by a pack of pits right here in my county. The person that owned the pits was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 3 years in prison. Finally the state leg acted and has come up with some meaningful laws meant to protect us from dangerous dogs. Now then, just like any law, it only protects us if others obey the law. But a felony charge for allowing a dangerous dog to run at large will get peoples attention. Now I have Chihuahuas that are just about the nastiest dogs alive, however they do not constitute a danger. Mostly pits and rottys. I'm a land surveyor and I have gone in yards where German Sheperds and/or Dobermans reside. Those dogs are quite frankly more afraid of me than I am of them. I encourage them to get to know me and we have fun while I'm there. Rottys and Pits on the other hand are a different story. I probably have more experiences with different breeds than most people just by the nature of my work. Rottys and pits are by far the most dangerous.

I was searching the web, and after typing in " children killed by pitbulls" I found the most horrifying stories. It's not only in the US, but all over the country. I found a story about a 30 year old woman named Shawna Riley who lived in New Port Richey. She had two pits. Freinds, and family tried to tell her the pits were aggressive, and that she needed to get rid of them. They said that the woman would shower the pits with affection, and that she felt very secure with them around. Well, she was giving one a bath, and the pit attacked, and killed her! I read a story about a pitbull puppy eating four toes off of an infant! The parents were held responsible for that one!
I wonder how many states actually have a banned on these types of dogs? Sounds like you do have alot of experience dealing with different types of dogs. I had neighbor's who raised Akita's and Rot's. One time an Akita'a got loose, and serverly attacked my older male collie that was on a leash in my frontyard. They were warned when they bought it, that the dog was very mean, and to make sure it's pin is secure, but they didn't, and my collie paid the price for it! You know, they never did offer to pay the vet bill!After a few years of raising these breeds, they finally stoped, and started raising milder type dogs.I read also where Akita's, Rot's, and Pit's were noted as being the most aggressive dogs in the US.

 

[fairisfair]

I was searching the web, and after typing in " children killed by pitbulls" I found the most horrifying stories. It's not only in the US, but all over the country. I found a story about a 30 year old woman named Shawna Riley who lived in New Port Richey. She had two pits. Freinds, and family tried to tell her the pits were aggressive, and that she needed to get rid of them. They said that the woman would shower the pits with affection, and that she felt very secure with them around. Well, she was giving one a bath, and the pit attacked, and killed her! I read a story about a pitbull puppy eating four toes off of an infant! The parents were held responsible for that one!
I wonder how many states actually have a banned on these types of dogs? Sounds like you do have alot of experience dealing with different types of dogs. I had neighbor's who raised Akita's and Rot's. One time an Akita'a got loose, and serverly attacked my older male collie that was on a leash in my frontyard. They were warned when they bought it, that the dog was very mean, and to make sure it's pin is secure, but they didn't, and my collie paid the price for it! You know, they never did offer to pay the vet bill!After a few years of raising these breeds, they finally stoped, and started raising milder type dogs.I read also where Akita's, Rot's, and Pit's were noted as being the most aggressive dogs in the US.

All I have to say, is if your daughter, or daughter in law, or maybe she is your niece by now, is as uninformed about the breed as you are; You are 100% correct, she has absolutely no business owning that kind of a dog.

 

[jypsy_rose_lee]

All I have to say, is if your daughter, or daughter in law, or maybe she is your niece by now, is as uninformed about the breed as you are; You are 100% correct, she has absolutely no business owning that kind of a dog.

Funny! No, she isn't my niece by now. My daughter, and daughter in law are two different people!
I'll lay money on it. that you are the owner of a pitbull! That figures, you have been possessed by the big devil haven't you? Must be something about those blood thirsty evil eyes.
Are you saying that, everything that we read about these dogs killing people is just all made up to tarnish the reputation of these sweet, innocent , protective breed of dogs?
I quess the woman I read about didn't shower her pit's with affection. Instead she beat on them, and when she was giving one a bath, she tried to drowned it, so the pit killed her. Yeah, that's the way you wanted it to read!!!

 

[moburkes]

Its time for this discussion to end. We can do it peacefully, or Mary can do it.

 

[gawm]

I live in Virginia where the State Leg. finally inacted some sort of animal control after a few Pit Bull maulings in which an elderly woman was slaughtered as well as a child being slaughtered by the "family pet"

I'm sure your state is a lot safer place to live now.
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It is now a felony in Virginia for someone to allow a dangerous animal to roam at large, doesn't have to kill anything, just has to roam.

How can you tell if a dog is dangerous if it is just roaming. Please include a statute
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Allowing a dangerous animal to roam at large does not mean opening the gate to let them out, it means that your own neglect allowed them to roam.

Kind of confused of what you are trying to say here. I think I agree though,

If your state does not have any kind of regulations yet, now is the time to get busy

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Guns kill a lot more people. Work on that first.

I'm sure your thread is going to get a lot of hysterical pit and rotty owners defnding their breed,

For every one of those dogs that attack, there are thousands that don't attack, of course responsible dog owners are going to stick up for members of their family.

but the simple truth as supported by the national facts are that pits and rottys do often attack and often kill.

Wrong. Please post your source. Fatalities caused by dog attacks are very rare. So they do not "Often Kill"

Some states have already banned these breeds from even living in the state

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Wrong again. There isn't a state in this country that has banned any breed of dog.

If people want to own these types of dogs, fine.

First thing you said that makes sense.

They need to erect a barracade around the property so that the rest of us don't have to live or die with their misdeeds.

A secure yard. I agree. Most homeowners associations won't allow a barracade. You really are from Virgina, aren't you?

Check with local regulations. In Virginia you are allowed to kill any animal that poses a threat to your person or your animals if that animal is on your property.

No need to kill, pepper spray works wonders.


lizjimbo, you really don't have your facts straight. Don't believe all the media hype. There are about 20 different breeds that are often mistaken for pit bulls. Pit bulls are dog aggressive, but are not people aggressive by nature. That is a fact that any canine expert will tell you. German Sheppards and dobbermans (which will be next with BSL) are far more people aggressive than pit bulls. Dog attacks only make the news when a pit bull or dog that looks like a pit bull is involved. Please don't spread ignorance.

 

[gawm]

I wonder how many states actually have a banned on these types of dogs?

None.

I had neighbor's who raised Akita's and Rot's. One time an Akita'a got loose, and serverly attacked my older male collie that was on a leash in my frontyard.

A dangerous dog is a dangerous dog. Breed does not matter. Labs have killed before. Pit bull have a higher temperment that golden retrievers and collies. Check it out. Completely impartial
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