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What is the name of your state? South Carolina

After reading the post from hifihoney, I spoke with my ER dr about his post. He gave me an article that I found interesting and amusing at the same time. They are the 6 rules for the ER. Here they are:

1. Be nice to the nurses.. They are underpaid, overworked, and have more influence over your er stay than you think. They determine how much of your pain shot you actually get as opposed to how much gets squirted on the floor when you mistreat them

2. Pick a simple non dangerous painful condition which does not require a 10,000.00 workup. Tell me your headache started suddenly and is the worst of your life and you will get a needle in your back or leave AMA with no pain meds. The parts of the story you think makes you sound pitiful makes me worry about an aneurysm.

3. Never rate your pain a 10 out of 10. This is an open fractured arm dangling, an 80% partial thickness burn or a real cerebral aneurysm. Dont tell me it is a 10 while you play tetris on your cell phone.

4. Never lie to me about who you are or your history. Give a fake name so we cant get old records and I will assume you are more of a jerk than you really are. You will piss me off and you dont want to piss off the guy who can write you a prescription.

5. Dont assume I am an idiot. I went to medical school. So if I read your triage note and you are allergic to every non-narcotic pain med ever made, you have a history of migraines, fibromyalgia and disc problems and your doctor is on vacation, closed and has noone on call I am smart enough to know you are scamming for drugs. This wont mean I wont give drugs but if you give that history, everyone knows you are lying. Especially when you say you are allergic to tylenol but can take Vicodin which has tylenol in it.

6. The final rule is wait your turn. If you get triaged back to the waiting room and others get back first, its because it is an emergency room and they are sicker. Your need of pain meds is not greater than a 6 year old having an asthma attack. Screaming at the nurse that you need attention now and trying to force her to take you back to a room now is a recipe to make everyone hate you. If it is believed by the doctor that you manipulated your way to the back to try to make a 19 year old with an ectopic pregnancy that might kill her have to wait even a few moments longer to be seen, It will be the staffs mission to torment you.

Keep the rules in mind and everything will go smoothly for both parties involved. If you insist on waving an orange flag that says I am drug seeking and making everyone mad you are less likely to get the prescription you seek.

As an ER nurse, I likes the article. Any thoughts by anyone?
 


lealea1005

Senior Member
What is the name of your state? South Carolina

After reading the post from hifihoney, I spoke with my ER dr about his post. He gave me an article that I found interesting and amusing at the same time. They are the 6 rules for the ER. Here they are:

1. Be nice to the nurses.. They are underpaid, overworked, and have more influence over your er stay than you think. They determine how much of your pain shot you actually get as opposed to how much gets squirted on the floor when you mistreat them

2. Pick a simple non dangerous painful condition which does not require a 10,000.00 workup. Tell me your headache started suddenly and is the worst of your life and you will get a needle in your back or leave AMA with no pain meds. The parts of the story you think makes you sound pitiful makes me worry about an aneurysm.

3. Never rate your pain a 10 out of 10. This is an open fractured arm dangling, an 80% partial thickness burn or a real cerebral aneurysm. Dont tell me it is a 10 while you play tetris on your cell phone.

4. Never lie to me about who you are or your history. Give a fake name so we cant get old records and I will assume you are more of a jerk than you really are. You will piss me off and you dont want to piss off the guy who can write you a prescription.

5. Dont assume I am an idiot. I went to medical school. So if I read your triage note and you are allergic to every non-narcotic pain med ever made, you have a history of migraines, fibromyalgia and disc problems and your doctor is on vacation, closed and has noone on call I am smart enough to know you are scamming for drugs. This wont mean I wont give drugs but if you give that history, everyone knows you are lying. Especially when you say you are allergic to tylenol but can take Vicodin which has tylenol in it.

6. The final rule is wait your turn. If you get triaged back to the waiting room and others get back first, its because it is an emergency room and they are sicker. Your need of pain meds is not greater than a 6 year old having an asthma attack. Screaming at the nurse that you need attention now and trying to force her to take you back to a room now is a recipe to make everyone hate you. If it is believed by the doctor that you manipulated your way to the back to try to make a 19 year old with an ectopic pregnancy that might kill her have to wait even a few moments longer to be seen, It will be the staffs mission to torment you.

Keep the rules in mind and everything will go smoothly for both parties involved. If you insist on waving an orange flag that says I am drug seeking and making everyone mad you are less likely to get the prescription you seek.

As an ER nurse, I likes the article. Any thoughts by anyone?
LMAO!! Now I have to clean the coffee off my keyboard.

It's been printed, laminated, and hung at our nursing desk. They're all good...and true....but I particularly like #5 because we find that an almost daily patient call/complaint :eek: .

Thanks for the laugh to start the day. :)
 
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ellencee

Senior Member
What is the name of your state? South Carolina

After reading the post from hifihoney, I spoke with my ER dr about his post. He gave me an article that I found interesting and amusing at the same time. They are the 6 rules for the ER. Here they are:

1. Be nice to the nurses.. They are underpaid, overworked, and have more influence over your er stay than you think. They determine how much of your pain shot you actually get as opposed to how much gets squirted on the floor when you mistreat them

2. Pick a simple non dangerous painful condition which does not require a 10,000.00 workup. Tell me your headache started suddenly and is the worst of your life and you will get a needle in your back or leave AMA with no pain meds. The parts of the story you think makes you sound pitiful makes me worry about an aneurysm.

3. Never rate your pain a 10 out of 10. This is an open fractured arm dangling, an 80% partial thickness burn or a real cerebral aneurysm. Dont tell me it is a 10 while you play tetris on your cell phone.

4. Never lie to me about who you are or your history. Give a fake name so we cant get old records and I will assume you are more of a jerk than you really are. You will piss me off and you dont want to piss off the guy who can write you a prescription.

5. Dont assume I am an idiot. I went to medical school. So if I read your triage note and you are allergic to every non-narcotic pain med ever made, you have a history of migraines, fibromyalgia and disc problems and your doctor is on vacation, closed and has noone on call I am smart enough to know you are scamming for drugs. This wont mean I wont give drugs but if you give that history, everyone knows you are lying. Especially when you say you are allergic to tylenol but can take Vicodin which has tylenol in it.

6. The final rule is wait your turn. If you get triaged back to the waiting room and others get back first, its because it is an emergency room and they are sicker. Your need of pain meds is not greater than a 6 year old having an asthma attack. Screaming at the nurse that you need attention now and trying to force her to take you back to a room now is a recipe to make everyone hate you. If it is believed by the doctor that you manipulated your way to the back to try to make a 19 year old with an ectopic pregnancy that might kill her have to wait even a few moments longer to be seen, It will be the staffs mission to torment you.

Keep the rules in mind and everything will go smoothly for both parties involved. If you insist on waving an orange flag that says I am drug seeking and making everyone mad you are less likely to get the prescription you seek.

As an ER nurse, I likes the article. Any thoughts by anyone?
LS, check out nurstoons.com.

BTW, I primarily work in SC, too! I wonder if our paths have crossed...

EC
 
Yup

hey lealea, glad I could make you smile. Hey EC, where in SC? I am in Greenville but used to work at SRMC in Spartanburg. Wouldnt you both agree that some posters need to read and memorize this?
 

ellencee

Senior Member
hey lealea, glad I could make you smile. Hey EC, where in SC? I am in Greenville but used to work at SRMC in Spartanburg. Wouldnt you both agree that some posters need to read and memorize this?
I work in the Charlotte area, the part that's the NC and SC border's medical/hospital area (Carowinds area).

Sometimes but not often, we'll transfer a patient to Greenville because that's the patient's preference. Sometimes, we'll receive a transfer from Greenville, but again, not often. If we ship 'em out, it's usually to MCSC or Duke.

If you worked in SRMC's Emergency Department, I tip my nursing cap to you.

EC
 
I did work at SRMC, no longer. Now I am at the Saint. Love it there. Not too many drug abusers looking there as it is religious based.
 

outonbail

Senior Member
One of outonbail's golden rules it to never piss off anyone who you see putting on a pair of rubber gloves, especially those who will be taking you're temperature! ;)

If you do, don't be surprised when the thermometer leaves a funny taste in you're mouth! :eek:
 

saltorino

Junior Member
is it true

I heard that nurses can spot a drug user almost right away, so as to prevent them malingering for dope. Is that true? Not every addict has needle marks and missing teeth. What are they looking for?
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
Nurses (particularly those who work in the ER or pain management) can spot drug SEEKERS pretty easily. Some of the reasons are in that list above. But it's really just a matter of experience - when you see it every day, it gets to be recognizable. But a nurse may not be able to tell any more then anyone else that Jimmy smokes pot on the weekends but it doesn't interfere with his job/school/etc. Not all drug users are drug seekers.
 
how do I do that?

Hey EC, how do I turn on PM's? You have to see the whole thing, bad language and all!!!
BTW Saltorino, After 12 years in the ER, I can spot a drug abuser at 10 paces!!!!!!

The last one I caught swore he had a kidney stone and stated he had to give a urine which came up positive for blood. I noted he had a small amount of blood on his sock later on while waiting for the dr. I told dr and he insisted on a cath urine which came back with no blood. Pt left department with noone seeing her as he knew he was busted. He had injured toe and put the blood in the urine. You would be amazed what people do.
 

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