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prplegal

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? PA
Pre-qualifed buyer
Offered accepted 4/22
Home inspection done 4/27
Appraisal to be ordered by 5/17
on 5/15 buyer found the interest rate to be too high for his budget- could bring the rate down by paying points, but doesn't have funds to do that and cover closing costs and down money. Buyer wants out of deal.
Sellers agent said buyer is acting in an "unethical manner" and is "not acting in good faith" because the appraisal wasn't ordered before 5/17 and is refusing to return hand money of 1k.

Does the buyer have any entitlement to the hand money?
 


moburkes

Senior Member
What is the name of your state? PA
Pre-qualifed buyer
Offered accepted 4/22
Home inspection done 4/27
Appraisal to be ordered by 5/17
on 5/15 buyer found the interest rate to be too high for his budget- could bring the rate down by paying points, but doesn't have funds to do that and cover closing costs and down money. Buyer wants out of deal.
Sellers agent said buyer is acting in an "unethical manner" and is "not acting in good faith" because the appraisal wasn't ordered before 5/17 and is refusing to return hand money of 1k.

Does the buyer have any entitlement to the hand money?
Is hand money earnest money? What does the contract say if the buyer cannot get financing?
 

prplegal

Junior Member
The contract states : Interest rate 6.75% however, buyer agrees to accept the interest rate as may be committed by the mortgage lender, not to exeed a maximum interest rate of 8%.

The buyer has been approved for 100% financing at 10%
buyer can get financing at 8% but needs more cash which he does not have.. Therefore the lender will not provide a "turndown" letter.
 

nextwife

Senior Member
The contract states : Interest rate 6.75% however, buyer agrees to accept the interest rate as may be committed by the mortgage lender, not to exeed a maximum interest rate of 8%.

The buyer has been approved for 100% financing at 10%
buyer can get financing at 8% but needs more cash which he does not have.. Therefore the lender will not provide a "turndown" letter.
Who wrote this contract? Wasn't the "interest rate" specifically stated to be APR? Payment rate is a bogus number - APR is the only consistant, quantifiable rate that should be used for a loan continguency maximum rate.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
Who wrote this contract? Wasn't the "interest rate" specifically stated to be APR? Payment rate is a bogus number - APR is the only consistant, quantifiable rate that should be used for a loan continguency maximum rate.
**A: I disagree that the payment rate is a bogus number. There is no law that requires a financing contingency to be an APR rate. The contingency could be based on a fixed rate, ajustable rate and based on simple interest, no declining balance, a negative amortization deal or even just a fixed payment amount per month.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
Nextwife asked, in post #4, who wrote the contract.
**A: who cares who wrote the contract. Let's talk about the real isue here and the most important question that has not been asked yet; that being on what date was the appraisal ordered?
 

PghREA

Senior Member
In my neck of the woods in PA, the appraisal is generally not ordered until close to closing.
The lenders generally order the appraisal after all the other paperwork is in and accepted.

Just because the Buyer dosn't like the interest rate is not a valid excuse to get out of the contract. Apparently the new interest rate is less than 8%. What does the date the appraisal was ordered have to do with the interest rate?
 
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prplegal

Junior Member
appraisal

"Just because the Buyer dosn't like the interest rate is not a valid excuse to get out of the contract"

I think this is the answer I'm looking for..

The interest rate and appraisal have nothing to do with each other. The sellers agent is focusing on the date for the appraisal to be ordered so that she can keep the earnest money by saying buyer was not acting in good faith.

Buyer's inital pre-approval rate was 6.75- when it jumped to 10 and then the inspection report was poor and the seller didn't want to fix anything.. Buyer saw a money pit and wanted to bail..

He should have walked when the inspection came back and the sellers refused to make some repairs....

Stupid hurts.
 

Gadfly

Senior Member
I'm not sure I agree with that. I thought the interest rate max was established in the contract, expecially if a $ amount or payment was included. What does the contract say about all this?
 

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