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Silverplum

Senior Member
OP, if you can't take the "picking apart" you're getting here, whatever will you do when faced with a judge and an opposing attorney?? :eek: I assure you, each and every stupid/contradictory thing you say IRL will be sliced and diced.

Talk about a FREE education! ;)
 


jbowman

Senior Member
That's not necessarily true. Again, depends on the individual's system. The body ain't gonna wait until after a weekend visit to flare up. A couple of hours -- possibly
Right, so why are you saying that Her child couldnt possibly be having these issues after coming home if it depends on the individual's system??? Do you know her kid? Why is this so unbelievable to you. My child's "individual system "reacts when he gets home. There is a cycle. My child is exposed, he slowly starts feeling uncomfortable, it intensifies over the next few days. I am not lying--no reason to.

In this case, GU, I dont think you really know what you are talking about, sorry.
 

CJane

Senior Member
I hate to keep this fire going but.... I understand what she is saying regarding the attacks coming when he gets home. The same thing happens to my child--if I take him to my brothers (who has multiple dogs and cats) he will be fine for the hour we are there. That evening, my son will be completely wheezy with red swollen eyes.
My point was mostly that Mom is overreacting. The kid having an allergy attack is NOT THE SAME THING as the kid having a potentially deadly asthma attack which is what she's been implying all along. I find it impossible to believe that the child is NEVER 'uncomfortable' or 'sneezing and congested' when at Mom's house. Impossible.

Also, OP - 180 miles makes a HUGE difference in allergies. HUGE. I live 100 miles from the house I grew up in. I almost never have allergy attacks here, but I can be at my mom's house for 5 hours and I feel like I might die. They have cottonwoods and ragweed. We don't. You CANNOT PROVE that the fault lies solely with dad. You just can't.
 
Just a thought...

Why not figure out a way the child can begin being responsible for medications.

Google to find dispensers and alarms.

Use the system at your home too, so he gets adjusted to it with constant supervision.

Your always going to have a hard time. You cannot dictate the environment. Friends and family houses, school, outdoor sports, may all cause future issues. You cannot change that. Managment of medication is the only thing you and your child can to to try to keep normalcy (sp), otherwise, there's that bubble option.
 
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Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
Sounds like you might have a long road with this guy...Have you considered the allergy shots? My husband went to a allergist (he got hives, swollen eyes and couldn't breath around cats) and was put on shots (1 every two weeks for 6 months) because of his allergies to cats, and after six months he stopped taking them but we now have 5 cats of our own...with no problems:) This was a few years ago...so maybe they have a better drug now? Some people also say that you can actually overcome your allergy if you are exposed to it enough I am convinced that this is what happened with my hubby (ever thought about getting a cat or two of your own?)

I only got to this post but felt the need to respond. Both my kids are *Medically* allergic to cats and dogs, yet show no signs of allergic reactions. We have had Husky's (Who shed here in Cali all the time) all their lives,(Before they were tested), and have never once had a reaction around our dogs.

Very strange, but your post is right on point.
 

GrowUp!

Senior Member
Right, so why are you saying that Her child couldnt possibly be having these issues after coming home if it depends on the individual's system??? Do you know her kid? Why is this so unbelievable to you. My child's "individual system "reacts when he gets home. There is a cycle. My child is exposed, he slowly starts feeling uncomfortable, it intensifies over the next few days. I am not lying--no reason to.
This isn't about your child.

In this case, GU, I dont think you really know what you are talking about, sorry.
And since you're not an MD, I don't care. I suffer from allergies from cats and it doesn't wait to flare up until after I left the house. It'll start while I am there. And that's could be just after an hour. The kid part of this thread is there for an entire weekend and not until afterwards it flares up (according to the OP's statement)? Riiiiiight. That's my point. If someone is allergic to something and they are exposed to it all weekend (for example), it's gonna flare up DURING that time.
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
Now that I have read the whole post,

If your kid is that allergic, he or she should be on shots. Pretty simple actually.
 

jbowman

Senior Member
Ok, what people seem to be missing is that this is not about being allergic necessarily, it is about the ASTHMA that is a symptom of the allergies. If the kid just had allergies, I would say buck up and live with it, give the kid the medication daily. It is the ASTHMA that is the problem. So the kid is allergic to cats--no big deal. But the kid is allergic to cats which in turn will give him asthma related symptoms, wheezing, barely able to breath, attacks etc.

No I am not an MD, Grow up, but neither are you. Obviously YOU do not have a child with asthma that is induced by allergies. If you did, you would be saying "i get a reaction within an hour" blah blah. It is NOT about the allergies. It is about the asthma.

With that said, obviously, no one is agreeing with me. So I will shut up now. I guess none of you have children that have this situation. I do. My child takes the medication, has a nebulizer (breath machine) and an inhaler. It is a horrible and dangerous situation when my child has been around allergens that start his asthma. Since this poster has an order that dad sanitize the house and get rid of the cats, I think taking it back to court would be a good idea. As far as proving how clean is clean? or whatever. I would think it would have to be at least to the court's satisfaction. Maybe if she takes it to court, the court will decide that it has NOT been sanitized to the courts satisfaction. I dont know. But I damn sure would try.
 

jbowman

Senior Member
And since you're not an MD, I don't care. I suffer from allergies from cats and it doesn't wait to flare up until after I left the house. It'll start while I am there. .
And by the way, I was not referring to the allergies flaring up, I was referring to the ASTHMA flaring up--wheezing etc. It does not happen instantaneously.
 

jbowman

Senior Member
I don't know why it doesn't.
Niether do I but in my experience, my child will come home from a weekend at dads and after being around his mother in laws cats, my child will be a mess for the next week. I'm sure some tightening starts in his chest in the first couple hours but this doesnt just go a way with a puff off the inhaler. It intensifies. By the time he is home, we have to go thru breathing treatments every 4 hours with his nebulizer and he is pretty much incapacitated.

I also just wanted to add that YES, life happens, there are allergens everywhere and you can not necessarily pinpoint WHERE they are coming from. But, if a living environment is full of that allergen--cats, cat dander, whatever, it would only be risky to the child's health. In my case, the NCP is as accomodating as possible to my child. He doesnt want to see him suffer either. Obviously in this case, dad is either completely stupid or uncaring. KNOWING that something in your house could possible make your child suffer unnecessarily is absolutely ridiculous IMO.
 
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Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
Ok, what people seem to be missing is that this is not about being allergic necessarily, it is about the ASTHMA that is a symptom of the allergies. ymptom If the kid just had allergies, I would say buck up and live with it, give the kid the medication daily. It is the ASTHMA that is the problem. So the kid is allergic to cats--no big deal. But the kid is allergic to cats which in turn will give him asthma related symptoms, wheezing, barely able to breath, attacks etc.

No I am not an MD, Grow up, but neither are you. Obviously YOU do not have a child with asthma that is induced by allergies. If you did, you would be saying "i get a reaction within an hour" blah blah. It is NOT about the allergies. It is about the asthma.

With that said, obviously, no one is agreeing with me. So I will shut up now. I guess none of you have children that have this situation. I do. My child takes the medication, has a nebulizer (breath machine) and an inhaler. It is a horrible and dangerous situation when my child has been around allergens that start his asthma. Since this poster has an order that dad sanitize the house and get rid of the cats, I think taking it back to court would be a good idea. As far as proving how clean is clean? or whatever. I would think it would have to be at least to the court's satisfaction. Maybe if she takes it to court, the court will decide that it has NOT been sanitized to the courts satisfaction. I dont know. But I damn sure would try.

I for one have to agree with you. There is a certain weed, (And I tested negative for allergies) that sprouts in May around here. The first thing that happens is that I have severe asthma, so severe that through the years it becomes bronchitis. I now know the symptoms and this year went straight into the Doc. Z-Pac atibiotics do the trick for me.

I have to agree with Bowman on this one as I have dealt with it myself.
 

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