Door searches at Wal-Mart

[Shay-Pari'e]

Nobody get their back up, I'm not arguing.

Can you explain what you mean by "But anyway the situation is this, you don't own that stuff till you leave the parking lot. "

I assumed that once payment is tendered and accepted the transaction is complete. Thus the stuff is mine. Am I wrong?

Not if the alarm goes off. I am so tired of this thread. Who cares what you have in your bags? Hell, I play games with my hubby all the time. He will be on one isle, and I will be on the next, when I will yell to him,****************************"Honey, did you get your butt cream"?

Get over it already!

 

[Silverplum]

I'm tired of newbies like milkman (and others) complaining that the volunteers aren't professional enough for him.

Like he's paying cold, hard cash for volunteer services. Like he has an inch of room to complain.

 

[justalayman]

I'm tired of newbies like milkman (and others) complaining that the volunteers aren't professional enough for him.

Like he's paying cold, hard cash for volunteer services. Like he has an inch of room to complain.

Do you mean you didn;t get your FA check this month silverplum?

Uh, nevermind. I was thinking of another forum.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Discussions of racial profiling are not relevant to a valid request to look in a bag when a door alarm goes off, or a policy of searching all bags, or of receipt checking all customers.

All these things are completely legal, and well established in many chain stores.

The correct approach is to write a letter to the store and corporate management and cease shopping at stores whose lawful policies you disapprove of.

Anyone on this forum (ie an internet user) can find deals FAR better than wal-mart by shopping online.

Even if online shopping is not your bag, you can get EVERYTHING you need and want, and still NEVER shop at wal-mart, no matter where live for comparable prices.

Many people are too stupid to understand that wal-marts claims of the 'lowest prices' is based on a bogus formula of the average 'customer' and, unsurprisingly, heavily includes their loss leaders.

In case anyone doesn't know what a loss leader is, it is a product priced at or below its cost. Its a type of promotion. It works. Its a smart way to shop if that is the ONLY thing you buy.

Its REALLY dumb if LOW LOW ROLLBACK prices sucker you into the store and you pay full mark-up (and more than your local grocers everyday price) for the item you are shopping for.

And while you're shopping buy some low priced crap you didn't need....

Someone is to stupid to realize that Walmart will in fact match anyones price.

 

[justalayman]

Someone is to stupid to realize that Walmart will in fact match anyones price.

well. not anybody's.

I told them there was a guy out in their parking lot selling a shirt just like the one I was attempting to purchase and his prices were 1/2 what Wal.Mart charges. They wouldn;t match his prices.

 

[milk man]

Not if the alarm goes off. I am so tired of this thread. Who cares what you have in your bags? Hell, I play games with my hubby all the time. He will be on one isle, and I will be on the next, when I will yell to him,****************************"Honey, did you get your butt cream"?

Get over it already!

"Is it illegal to ignore the alarm while exiting a store when one has paid for all merchandise?

What is the store's security authority to stop a person that ignores the alarms while leaving?

Is it illegal to refuse to be searched by the door greeter if the alarm does not sound?
These are the questions I asked in the beginning. Then I posted some of the reasons I don't want people going through my stuff. Then I asked for some clarification, because I really wanted to understand what I was being told.


Thank you."

These are the questions I asked in the beginning. Then I posted some of the reasons I don't want people going through my stuff. Then I asked for some clarification, because I really wanted to understand what I was being told.

But what I received was very short answers then a scolding.

 

[justalayman]

well, I haven;t looked up Kansas statutes for this BUT, in some states a store can stop you and inspect your bags IF they have reasonable suspicion there may be shoplifiting. Courts in many states have rendered descisions that condsider an alarm going off as reasonable suspicion and have the right to stop you.


In most states I am aware of, the store cannot require you to allow a search of your bags if they do not have reasonable suspicion of shoplifting.

They can refuse to ever allow you into their store at their discretion should you really piss them off.

 

[milk man]

I'm tired of newbies like milkman (and others) complaining that the volunteers aren't professional enough for him.

Like he's paying cold, hard cash for volunteer services. Like he has an inch of room to complain.

"Oh boy, were talking about stopping for thirty seconds, maybe a minute. What's the big deal?
If you're so busy that you can't stop and let them check your bag, maybe you should have someone else do your shopping. Lets face it, those alarms go off about once every fifty to a hundred times you pass through them. So it's not like your going to have to deal with this great inconvenience on a daily basis.
Besides, if you don't have the minute available to stop and speak with the Wal Mart door
monitor, where would you ever find the time to sue them?

But hey, if you want to keep on walking and ignore their request to check your purchase, go right ahead. But don't be surprised if they refuse to allow you to shop there anymore." by Outonbail.


Does this sound like a professional Reponse to a question? Not only that, but someone closed the thread.

 

[milk man]

Opps. Didn't read the post correctly.

 

[xylene]

Someone is to stupid to realize that Walmart will in fact match anyones price.

I'm also too stupid to realize that gasoline / transportation cost are now free, and I should go back to Wal-Mart to get a the exact same price. Dicking around like that is sure to result in gross savings of like .01% (at a net loss of several full percent)

Oh yeah and stupid people like me have our time valued at like zero. I could be 'saving' hundreds.

I'm not a Wal-Mart hater and I'm no Wally lover either. I'm a savvy shopper. Putting up with BS, travel time, etc... is part of any cost calculation.

THERE ARE ALWAYS alternatives to putting up with BS.

 

[milk man]

I'm tired of newbies like milkman (and others) complaining that the volunteers aren't professional enough for him.

Like he's paying cold, hard cash for volunteer services. Like he has an inch of room to complain.

Since this is a free site and you have the answers, does that give the green light for flip answers.

Thank you to all that have taken time to answer my questions.

I understand I can continue to walk out the door even if the alarm sounds.
I understand that I may be stopped and detained (by force) by store staff if the alarm sounds and I don't coroporate with them.

 

[You Are Guilty]

I can't seem to find it, but there was a very similar prior thread on this same topic (door searches), only involving a certain home improvement chain store who will remain unnamed, (other than to say its employees all wear orange aprons ), Anyone have better luck locating it?

 

[CdwJava]

These are the questions I asked in the beginning. Then I posted some of the reasons I don't want people going through my stuff. Then I asked for some clarification, because I really wanted to understand what I was being told.

But what I received was very short answers then a scolding.

But, you got the answers.

- Carl

 

[gawm]

Kroger trains it's employees to ask the person to stop and to see a receipt, if the person adamantly refuses, to just let them go. It is to my understanding that they have to see you steal something or have strong reason to believe you stole something in order to detain you. The alarm buzzing is not enough. If they do detain you and you didn't steal anything it would open them up to a unlawful detention or even kidnapping if they can't show reasonable suspicion. That goes for all stores except Costco and Sam's club because it is in your membership agreement that you will stop at the door checkout.

 

[longsally111]

I just have to say that I but things all the time at Wal-Mart and I live in the store, the enployees all know me on sight. I set off the alarms all the time with my 2 small children in tow and I STILL STOP and let them look if they want. I have nothing to hide and therefor, it doesnt bother me. The more you resist, the more you look guilty.