Unborn Child

[xylene]

That time it was decided was the time at which the fetus could live outside the mother's womb and survive.

Yes but...

3(c) For the stage subsequent to viability the State, in promoting its interest in the potentiality of human life, may, if it chooses, regulate, and even proscribe, abortion except where necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother.

Which, if carried to its logical consequences, means abortion on demand with the agreement of a doctor, who are of course complicit.

Which means, there are no limits on abortion.

 

[fairisfair]

I looked at the TWO forms. The one is for establishing paternity and has the check mark the unborn.

The restraining order on the second form talks about the child. THAT is what I can't wrap my brain around. It is TECHNICALLY, BIOLOGICALLY NOT a child. It is a fetus. Just cuz I put two words together: unborn + child does NOT make it correct to correlate on a second form.

Here. perhaps this will help you wrap your mind around it.

YOUR fetus is DAD's unborn child.

 

[casa]

Yes but...



Which, if carried to its logical consequences, means abortion on demand with the agreement of a doctor, who are of course complicit.

Which means, there are no limits on abortion.

And WTF does that have to do with establishing Paternity, Custody or Visitation?

NOTHING.

This thread (& this case) is about a child which is going to be born. Period.

 

[casa]

Unless they were crotchless.

Never mind. I need to take my meds. My head hurts.

Did you ever figure out how to share those via cyber-sox land? Because right about now this thread has me WISHING I was medicated.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fam&group=07001-08000&file=7630-7644
I think it's in there somewhere...

The point is Shay, if a man files a petition to establish that he is soon to be a father, both mommie and daddie to be have to stay put till judgie decides what to do

In THIS case daddie filed and mommie ran away before judgie said it was ok, that was a no-no on her part

casa can probably tell it better but that's 'cuz she's got a bigger brain than i do

Thanks Emme, I had no idea that a man could file before the birth. What I find odd in this, *He is soon to be a father*.

Baby is not born, and a PT has not been given.

We don't know these people and the baby may not even be his.

Thanks for the info though.

 

[CourtClerk]

YOUR fetus is DAD's unborn child.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

 

[CourtClerk]

Thanks Emme, I had no idea that a man could file before the birth. What I find odd in this, *He is soon to be a father*.

Baby is not born, and a PT has not been given.

We don't know these people and the baby may not even be his.

Thanks for the info though.

This is true, however, there are a few things that seem to be being forgotten.

1. And most important. A paternity test is not necessary in order to establish paternity. It is only 1 of the few ways in order to establish paternity. Not every child is administered a paternity test, yet many still have legal fathers. If "dad" is going to voluntarily sign a DOP, then there is no need for a test.

2. In this case, "dad" is either already admitting paternity (which is his right) or already putting the court on notice that he wants one (also his right).

In the event that (if after a test is done) this child is not his, California will release jurisdiction and this chick can move to the moon if she wants. If in fact this is his child, then he's protected his rights and California will retain jurisdiction until they let it go.

 

[StampGirl]

I'm back!!!

*passing out everyone's food* LOL

Mmmmm Tommy Burgers

Yep its gorgeous here today. I can't WAIT to get to Big Bear on Friday Me gots wedding plans to finalize!!!

 

[StampGirl]

This is true, however, there are a few things that seem to be being forgotten.

1. And most important. A paternity test is not necessary in order to establish paternity. It is only 1 of the few ways in order to establish paternity. Not every child is administered a paternity test, yet many still have legal fathers. If "dad" is going to voluntarily sign a DOP, then there is no need for a test.
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Yep. My Ex wanted/demanded a paternity test for our last lil one. Up until the second he saw her the day after she was born. YIKES. She looks EXACTLY like our other kids. So he voluntarily signed the DOP and went on his merry way. Dumb @$$

 

[casa]

I'm back!!!

*passing out everyone's food* LOL

Mmmmm Tommy Burgers

Yep its gorgeous here today. I can't WAIT to get to Big Bear on Friday Me gots wedding plans to finalize!!!

OMG I swear I can smell it. I'm hungry now. I think I hate you now.

 

[TinkerBelleLuvr]

Yep. My Ex wanted/demanded a paternity test for our last lil one. Up until the second he saw her the day after she was born. YIKES. She looks EXACTLY like our other kids. So he voluntarily signed the DOP and went on his merry way. Dumb @$$

When on acts badly, we expect that others might act as badly. Yes, he is a dumba**.

 

[xylene]

Sorry.

And WTF does that have to do with establishing Paternity, Custody or Visitation?

I have a strange thing about people's terrible life ruining mistaken choices.

PS - you can take that any way you like.

 

[StampGirl]

OMG I swear I can smell it. I'm hungry now. I think I hate you now.

Wow!!! Don't tell me you have one of those fabulous (said in my best diva voice) smell-o-vision moniters??? LOL

Nah.. you luvs me!!!

 

[Just Blue]

Ok I am on my way to In-N-Out Burger for lunch!! Who wants some??? LOL

CourtClerk and Casa? Hold down the CA fort for me until I get back LOL

*leaving my jacket at my desk because its freakin' 80 degrees outside today*

We don't have In-N-Out here...I was on a business trip to Vegas and my boss (dufus) went there and got burgers for us all (big spender).

Lets just say that in-n-out is well named...it went in and about 30 min later it came back out. yuck. Nothing is grosser than re-tasting a in-n-out burger....nasty...shudder...

 

[casa]

I have a strange thing about people's terrible life ruining mistaken choices.

PS - you can take that any way you like.

I think your time and effort would be well spent on a forum FOR those issues. In fact, ANY place other than this forum would be more appropriate.

Here, we deal with children who WILL be born or who are ALREADY born.