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luckymom

Member
IL
Last June, my ex was ordered to sign the necessary form so that my daughter could get a passport. Subsequently I was given permission to relocate overseas temporarily. My daughter will return to the U.S. in June for summer visitation with dad and I will follow in August. The issue that has arisen is the fate of the passport. Ex has stated that he will not send it back with her, charging again that I am a flight risk. This is complete rubbish--he just likes making life hard. I've suggested that DD bring it back and forth, allowing both of us the possibility of overseas travel during our time. Is this reasonable? Is there another solution short of going to court again?
 


profmum

Senior Member
So ex wants to keep the passport once you are all back in the US? and not give it to you?
He can do that and if the Courts approve international travel, you could request clause to ensure that he gets the passport to you within an x amount of time. I have the same x, who alleged "flight risk" and all it did was get him a tongue lashing from the judge.

I would send him an email refuting his claims, and tie this with any vacation clause you have, may have in the CO. For example, letting him know that in the even either parent wants to travel internationally with DD, the other parent gets the passport within 6 weeks etc (in the event you need a visa for the place you are travelling to) or something to that effect.

If he disagrees, well, back to court.. really this can be resolved in a status conference with the judge.. I have had plenty of those and they are not as expensive.

Let him know you mean business, ask him if he ok with language about getting the passport within a timely manner should either one of you need to travel with DD out of the country and if not, tell him you will " seek the Court's assistance in resolving this issue"
and see what happens..the judges get tired of these difficult ex's..
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
So ex wants to keep the passport once you are all back in the US? and not give it to you?
He can do that and if the Courts approve international travel, you could request clause to ensure that he gets the passport to you within an x amount of time. I have the same x, who alleged "flight risk" and all it did was get him a tongue lashing from the judge.

I would send him an email refuting his claims, and tie this with any vacation clause you have, may have in the CO. For example, letting him know that in the even either parent wants to travel internationally with DD, the other parent gets the passport within 6 weeks etc (in the event you need a visa for the place you are travelling to) or something to that effect.

If he disagrees, well, back to court.. really this can be resolved in a status conference with the judge.. I have had plenty of those and they are not as expensive.

Let him know you mean business, ask him if he ok with language about getting the passport within a timely manner should either one of you need to travel with DD out of the country and if not, tell him you will " seek the Court's assistance in resolving this issue"
and see what happens..the judges get tired of these difficult ex's..
Of course another option, which would be more expensive, would be for you to escort the child home, and simply keep the passport.
 

luckymom

Member
So ex wants to keep the passport once you are all back in the US? and not give it to you?
He can do that and if the Courts approve international travel, you could request clause to ensure that he gets the passport to you within an x amount of time. I have the same x, who alleged "flight risk" and all it did was get him a tongue lashing from the judge.

I would send him an email refuting his claims, and tie this with any vacation clause you have, may have in the CO. For example, letting him know that in the even either parent wants to travel internationally with DD, the other parent gets the passport within 6 weeks etc (in the event you need a visa for the place you are travelling to) or something to that effect.

If he disagrees, well, back to court.. really this can be resolved in a status conference with the judge.. I have had plenty of those and they are not as expensive.

Let him know you mean business, ask him if he ok with language about getting the passport within a timely manner should either one of you need to travel with DD out of the country and if not, tell him you will " seek the Court's assistance in resolving this issue"
and see what happens..the judges get tired of these difficult ex's..
Thanks for the response. I thought the judge sent the message last summer that she was tired of his wild claims about international abduction, but not clear enough. Our orders don't contain any information about the passport or international travel, so maybe we just need to go court again.
 

luckymom

Member
Of course another option, which would be more expensive, would be for you to escort the child home, and simply keep the passport.
Not possible at this point because of my work schedule, unfortunately. But thanks for the suggestion.
 

Humusluvr

Senior Member
How old is daughter?

An idea (maybe not a good one) is to send a postage paid, insured envelope with daughter, have her place passport in it once off the plane and through customs, and send it off to you. Never let dad get his hands on it? Just brainstorming.

Probably something you need modified in court, due to your ex's past behavior.

Good Luck to you!
 

Isis1

Senior Member
How old is daughter?

An idea (maybe not a good one) is to send a postage paid, insured envelope with daughter, have her place passport in it once off the plane and through customs, and send it off to you. Never let dad get his hands on it? Just brainstorming.

Probably something you need modified in court, due to your ex's past behavior.

Good Luck to you!
but then that puts too much pressure on daughter to have to deal with. i don't even send letters with my kids anymore to their dad. i mail them. it just causes too much anxiety to the child to have to be responsible in playing keep away with dad. IMO.
 

casa

Senior Member
but then that puts too much pressure on daughter to have to deal with. i don't even send letters with my kids anymore to their dad. i mail them. it just causes too much anxiety to the child to have to be responsible in playing keep away with dad. IMO.
You shouldn't be sending correspondence through your children anyway. :rolleyes: It's the cost of a stamp vs. your child being put directly in the middle.
 

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