HELP!!! son in need

[penelope10]

I agree with the other posters. You are sounding like a total ingrate.That the only "best interests" you are worried about are your own.

You knew that GGM and GGP were for all intents and purposes raising YOUR child. And you were perfectly ok with it. Didn't try to take Mom back to court when she wasn't living up to her end.

You also stated that Mom didn't contribute anything financially to the child. That these senior citizens handled everything financially.

Let me ask you something---where were YOU when these people were taking care of YOUR child? Where was YOUR financial contribution?

Think I'm harsh? This is just a sample of some of the tough questions the court is going to ask YOU when you ask for a change of custody.

So when you go over the GGP's house and you see rats, roaches, and no food YOU have chosen to do nothing to help this man. ( and in essence not help your child too). You have offered no help, although this person has been indirectly helping YOU for years by raising and caring for YOUR child.

Take a step back and look at what you have done and are doing. You are acting in a totally disgraceful manner.

You could do the right thing which would be helping this man as you try to have custody changed. Get it?

 

[Bloopy]

Great Grandma dying is the change of circumstance that makes it reasonable for you to persue custody.

Mom would have a better shot at being awarded custody since she has it to begin with. You respected her choice to allow the GGs to raise the child so you can't hold that against her

May I join the ranks of folks stating that dispariging Great Grandpa makes you an ingrate.

 

[BL]

The child lives with the great grandpa but the mom has custody she never GAVE him to her great grandpa.

Your son lived with both grands all these years , and you were OK with that .

I see him more than his mother does and she lives about 3 blocks away. I pick him up every weekend. And see him at least twice during the week.

All these years knowing your son was physically living with the grands , you were OK with status quo.

When he was 3 I went to the attorney general and told them to take me to court so i could pay my child support and get my rights.

You got your rights at your son's age of 3 , OK .

Ever since then i have been paying and seeing my son all I can. She already said I could have him all summer.

Your choice . You didn't Petition for a change all these years .

She has never provided the great grandparents with money for my son.

So , you chose to keep paying mom CS payments knowing the child was being provided for , and living outside the mother's home .

So by law its ok for a child to live in these conditions?

Ok Dad of the decade , why haven't you not been man enough to go over and talk to grandpa , and seek some solutions ?

All you want to do is have gramps arrested , when all this is both your and mom's fault .

What's the matter did granny have some gumption ? Now poor grandpa's grieving , and your pathetic sole wants him arrested .

You said he was willing to provide the court with a statement he and grandma have been caring for him .

Did he tell you to your face at his home , or did you use a go between , like your wife ?

So I will be seeing a lawyer June 3

On top of everything else , you can't wait until June , 3 .

 

[GrandmaOH]

The child lives with the great grandpa but the mom has custody she never GAVE him to her great grandpa.

I see him more than his mother does and she lives about 3 blocks away. I pick him up every weekend. And see him at least twice during the week.

When he was 3 I went to the attorney general and told them to take me to court so i could pay my child support and get my rights. Ever since then i have been paying and seeing my son all I can. She already said I could have him all summer.

She has never provided the great granparents with money for my son.

So by law its ok for a child to live in these conditions???????

OK, you are coming across like an ungrateful turd.
You made it seem like a BFD that you drive 24 miles to get him. Custody was determined when the child was 3, yet you have been content to allow the child to stay with the great grandparents instead of going back to court. And you went along with it because you didn't do anything to change that! Unless you were deployed with the military then you have no excuse. Great grandpa has taken care of this boy and will give testimony that the child has been in his care, presumably to help you get custody; but you won't get off your lazy @$$ to help clean up the house where your child resides?

 

[Bloopy]

All you want to do is have gramps arrested , when all this is both your and mom's fault .

I agree he's being a turd but he's NOT pushing to have graps arrested, he's pushing to get custody himself.

I think it's okay to persue custody but slinging mud at gramps is uncalled for.

Great Grandpa is willing to help Dad by stating the child has has been living with the great grandparents rather than Mom.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

I agree he's being a turd but he's NOT pushing to have graps arrested, he's pushing to get custody himself.

I think it's okay to persue custody but slinging mud at gramps is uncalled for.

Great Grandpa is willing to help Dad by stating the child has has been living with the great grandparents rather than Mom.

Here is his quote Bloopy,

"Should i call the cops or cps.
or neither and wait to talk to the lawyer"

 

[Bloopy]

Here is his quote Bloopy,

"Should i call the cops or cps.
or neither and wait to talk to the lawyer"

I read that too but it's all about making a super-duper case to get custody.

There a few people in this world that think CPS and police reports are the ticket to custody.

disgusting

 

[juanisthebigdog]

some more

ok i understand where some of you come off calling me a turd because i should of done something sooner

but i have experienced some horrible stuff from the legal system

when i went to court for my son at the age of 3 to get my rights his mom failed to show up so the judge tells me his going to give me the rights.

a week later were in court because the mom appealed and basically said she forgot the freakin JUDGE says he never gave me the rights

my lawyer then tells me in a few words that since his not from that county and his not to familiar with the judge sometimes make it more difficult

so with this bad taste in my mouth and his mom always promising that she was going to take him in I neglected to go back to court and when the great grandma was around I was still seeing my son all the time and he was always looked after

if i would of taken her back to court the judge would probably slap her in the hand and tell her that he better start living with her and a few months later it would be the same situation

i will be seeing another attorney on June 3rd so i will be asking alot of questions

i would never get his great grandpa in trouble they tried there best with my son if it was not for him heaven knows where my son would be But my son is getting older and he needs alot more guidance he is pretty much begging for it

I have no problems with him at my house my wife and him get along great we dont have any children of our own so we are going to try everything to get him before he heads down the wrong path

 

[LdiJ]

ok i understand where some of you come off calling me a turd because i should of done something sooner

but i have experienced some horrible stuff from the legal system

when i went to court for my son at the age of 3 to get my rights his mom failed to show up so the judge tells me his going to give me the rights.

a week later were in court because the mom appealed and basically said she forgot the freakin JUDGE says he never gave me the rights

my lawyer then tells me in a few words that since his not from that county and his not to familiar with the judge sometimes make it more difficult

so with this bad taste in my mouth and his mom always promising that she was going to take him in I neglected to go back to court and when the great grandma was around I was still seeing my son all the time and he was always looked after

if i would of taken her back to court the judge would probably slap her in the hand and tell her that he better start living with her and a few months later it would be the same situation

i will be seeing another attorney on June 3rd so i will be asking alot of questions

i would never get his great grandpa in trouble they tried there best with my son if it was not for him heaven knows where my son would be But my son is getting older and he needs alot more guidance he is pretty much begging for it

I have no problems with him at my house my wife and him get along great we dont have any children of our own so we are going to try everything to get him before he heads down the wrong path

I will echo one piece of advice that you received earlier.....obviously great grandpa is struggling right now, and seems to also realize that it may be too much for him right now to raise your son on his own.

While things are pending, it might be a nice gesture for you and your son to help great grandpa get his home back in order. It will make life better for your son in the short term, could teach your son a valuable lesson about helping family/the elderly, and could help get great grandpa on your side. It also might help your son feel more comfortable about leaving great grandpa if you are able to prevail in your case.

 

[Ohiogal]

The child lives with the great grandpa but the mom has custody she never GAVE him to her great grandpa.

I see him more than his mother does and she lives about 3 blocks away. I pick him up every weekend. And see him at least twice during the week.

When he was 3 I went to the attorney general and told them to take me to court so i could pay my child support and get my rights. Ever since then i have been paying and seeing my son all I can. She already said I could have him all summer.

She has never provided the great granparents with money for my son.

So by law its ok for a child to live in these conditions???????

You are not listening. BE A MAN. Be a father. is it okay? No however I don't believe that your child is in those conditions. And if he is then i seriously hope you don't get custody of him because you are NOT doing the proper things that a parent would do. You could have done something when the child was first placed there but that would have complicated your life.

 

[juanisthebigdog]

ohiogal

i love my son and I know could do a better job than the mom

because she has never even attempted to do her job

 

[penelope10]

i love my son and I know could do a better job than the mom

because she has never even attempted to do her job

If you want custody of your son you'd better start showing that you REALLY care about him.


Instead of wagging your tongue and professing your love, get off your LAZY @$$ and help your son out.

If there is no food at GGP's house, reach into you wallet, and take some damn food over to his house. If the living conditions are filthy, go buy some cleaning supplies and go over there and help clean the house up.

For God's sake quit making this about YOU. Make this about your SON.

No one has said you shouldn't try to get custody of your son. But gaining custody is not going to happen over night. In the mean time YOU can make sure that your son has food on the table and is living in a clean environment.(If what you've stated is TRUE).

GGP has lost his spouse. He's not functioning the way he used to. GGP wants to do the right thing by helping you gain custody.

So you need to help this good and decent man who has taken on the responsibility of taking care of YOUR son for years. And in doing so you will be HELPING YOUR SON until the court reaches a decision.

It' time that you learn by GGP's example. Showing love and stating love are two different animals. Much of love has to do with thinking beyond yourself and showing acts of compassion for others. It's high time you started showing some compassion bud.

 

[juanisthebigdog]

Called Mom

I called his mom and asked her if I could go and put some defoggers and spray some insecticide. And she said no that she would do it (ya right)

when the great grandma past my boys mom got the house and her property so the great grandpa is very upset because he got nothing and they have been having issues the mom has even threatened to kick him out

so the great grandpa has no say so in that house now

 

[BL]

I called his mom and asked her if I could go and put some defoggers and spray some insecticide. And she said no that she would do it (ya right)

when the great grandma past my boys mom got the house and her property so the great grandpa is very upset because he got nothing and they have been having issues the mom has even threatened to kick him out

so the great grandpa has no say so in that house now

You know this how ?

It's martial property .

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

I called his mom and asked her if I could go and put some defoggers and spray some insecticide. And she said no that she would do it (ya right)

when the great grandma past my boys mom got the house and her property so the great grandpa is very upset because he got nothing and they have been having issues the mom has even threatened to kick him out

so the great grandpa has no say so in that house now

That is a load of crap. Just like it is a load of crap that the judge gave you rights to your child, then said he didn't later, because the mom didn't show up the 1st time. You won by default. The lawyer stuff? What the heck were you doing with a lawyer from a different county? In all honesty, that wouldn't have mattered anyway.

Let me tell you why**************....When a judge makes an order, it is signed, dated, and stamped, so you would have had a paper trail.

The house? Sounds like marital property to me, all GGP needs to do is open the door and let you in.

I don't buy anything you are saying.