So he's moved in with me.

[EarthMother01]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Wisconsin.

18 y/o son has moved in with me for his senior year of high school. He is still a dependant, obviously. However, the ex is refusing to allow our son to remove any of his personal effects from that house. Be it clothes, gaming equipment, stereo, or even the alarm clock he baught for himself.

Bottom line is...do our son's things belong to our son, or do they belong to Dad who can say he can't bring them here?

 

[Humusluvr]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Wisconsin.

18 y/o son has moved in with me for his senior year of high school. He is still a dependant, obviously. However, the ex is refusing to allow our son to remove any of his personal effects from that house. Be it clothes, gaming equipment, stereo, or even the alarm clock he baught for himself.

Bottom line is...do our son's things belong to our son, or do they belong to Dad who can say he can't bring them here?

Why did this happen?

 

[EarthMother01]

Why did this happen?

Why did what happen? Our Son's choice or the fathers refusal to allow him any of his persoanl items?
I can answer better if I understand the question more. Not trying to be rude.

 

[CJane]

Legally, the child is only 'allowed' to remove what he can prove he purchased himself, or what was given to him (again, that he can prove) as a gift.

Even then? If Dad doesn't want to let him have it, there's very little sonny-boy can do to get the items back.

Which is why it's always a bad idea to leave your parents' home on bad terms if you're not 100% prepared to go it completely on your own from square one.

 

[Humusluvr]

Why did what happen? Our Son's choice or the fathers refusal to allow him any of his persoanl items?
I can answer better if I understand the question more. Not trying to be rude.

Did the son leave his things, was he not allowed to take them, did son leave in anger or during a fight, why did son not have his things?

Clarify. Circumstances, please.

 

[EarthMother01]

Our son did not leave after a fight.

I have another post here a month or so back detailing some of the issues, but to nut-shell the particulars....

There was a 50/50 everything court order in place when I was forced by circumstances to seek work out of state. A Stipulation and Temporary order was put in place granted him TEMPORARY full physical placement that dictated the arrangements for visiations and child access for the years 2001 and 2002 ONLY.

Upon securing employment back in the the same area, the ex refused to stipulate to return to the 50/50 original court order. I'd gone broke from him trying to take me to court for full sole custody (he lost each time) prior to the employment issues. I couldn't afford to file again with the bills I had just from moving back so I could be with my children.

So...after trying to work things out with the ex, asking over and over again can we please stipulate to return to the 50/50 order to no avail, I decided to take the higher road.

It had been established on record, that he would do anything to end his Child support obligation from day one of the divorce. In that temp agrreement, all childsupport was ended. (We had previously paid 12.5% of our gross back and forth). Kids got wise to this after many derogatory things the father had said about me.

Suffice it to say both our children got wise to what was going on, and got into my files and read all the documents I'd kept over the years.

Son is 18 now and chooses to live home with me. he just wants a few of his things. Father is denying them because he is living here now. Were he in a college dorm, or in an apartment, I can assure you this would not be an issue.

 

[wileybunch]

Suffice it to say both our children got wise to what was going on, and got into my files and read all the documents I'd kept over the years.

What a disaster. That's not how kids should find out "the truth". Believe me, many of us would love for the kids to "understand" things that they don't know, but that's truly purely selfish on the parent's part, really. What did do you after the kids got into your stuff? Does their Dad know?

 

[Ohiogal]

Legally, the child is only 'allowed' to remove what he can prove he purchased himself, or what was given to him (again, that he can prove) as a gift.

Even then? If Dad doesn't want to let him have it, there's very little sonny-boy can do to get the items back.

Which is why it's always a bad idea to leave your parents' home on bad terms if you're not 100% prepared to go it completely on your own from square one.

Actually child can take dad to court. I have seen magistrates get totally ticked off at the parents who are doing such things -- those are NOT fun hearings to be involved with.