when does Christmas visitation end?

[luckymom]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? TX

My orders state that the first half of winter break ends at noon on the 26th. I have always understood this to mean that our daughter should be in his hands by noon, so when I have her for the first half of the break, I have always put her on the plane first thing in the morning on the 26th so that she arrives by noon just to avoid any conflict. At the same time, in consideration of the fact that he has 90 minute drive to airport, I have not demanded in my years that she arrive on the dot at 12. This year, however, we are flying out of the country (yes, I have his permission) on the 26th at around 7 p.m. and I want to make sure to allow for the possibility of a flight delay, so I have her getting on the flight at around 10 and arriving at 1:30. Ex is insisting that she doesn't need to leave until noon. Who is right?

Thanks in advance.

 

[LdiJ]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? TX

My orders state that the first half of winter break ends at noon on the 26th. I have always understood this to mean that our daughter should be in his hands by noon, so when I have her for the first half of the break, I have always put her on the plane first thing in the morning on the 26th so that she arrives by noon just to avoid any conflict. At the same time, in consideration of the fact that he has 90 minute drive to airport, I have not demanded in my years that she arrive on the dot at 12. This year, however, we are flying out of the country (yes, I have his permission) on the 26th at around 7 p.m. and I want to make sure to allow for the possibility of a flight delay, so I have her getting on the flight at around 10 and arriving at 1:30. Ex is insisting that she doesn't need to leave until noon. Who is right?

Thanks in advance.

Ok, so you are saying that the ex has her the first week of Christmas break, and you want to make sure that there is no chance that she will miss your flight going overseas at 7PM on the 26th, therefore you want her to take the 10:00 AM flight to arrive at 1:30 PM.

I think that in this instance, your wish is completely reasonable and logical. Point out to the ex that you have always made sure that the child arrived by noon on the ex's week, but that you have never required the same of ex, but that this time, you are unwilling to take any risks of something going wrong and the child not arriving in time to make the 7PM flight.

I understand the ex not wanting to have to leave for the airport at the crack of dawn, but in this instance, its a reasonable request.

 

[luckymom]

Ok, so you are saying that the ex has her the first week of Christmas break, and you want to make sure that there is no chance that she will miss your flight going overseas at 7PM on the 26th, therefore you want her to take the 10:00 AM flight to arrive at 1:30 PM.

I think that in this instance, your wish is completely reasonable and logical. Point out to the ex that you have always made sure that the child arrived by noon on the ex's week, but that you have never required the same of ex, but that this time, you are unwilling to take any risks of something going wrong and the child not arriving in time to make the 7PM flight.

I understand the ex not wanting to have to leave for the airport at the crack of dawn, but in this instance, its a reasonable request.

Yes, that is exactly the situation. I have explained to ex exactly where I am coming from . He is insisting that she doesn't have to get on a flight until 12 and since there isn't another flight until after 1 that has her getting in around 4. It is just too tight for comfort!

Thanks for the advice. I will stand my ground!

 

[profmum]

Yes, that is exactly the situation. I have explained to ex exactly where I am coming from . He is insisting that she doesn't have to get on a flight until 12 and since there isn't another flight until after 1 that has her getting in around 4. It is just too tight for comfort!

Thanks for the advice. I will stand my ground!

You have the same ex I do, stubborn as a mule, despite a specific time being outlined in the CO. having said that this may not be the best time to dig your heels since there he can cause a lot of stress and international flights can be very difficult to rebook during the X mas time, if you needed to. Is there any way you can leave the next day? You are right in that she needs to be at your place by noon, but I dont think dad will get into a lot of trouble by putting her on a flight at noon. So see what alternatives you can come up with. I hear you about digging your heels in after repeated such violations. BUT, you also want to limit the stress to to yourself.

 

[Bloopy]

I agree that your ex is being a tool and that your request is reasonable.

However, he is the NCP living far away so like many NCPs, he can get unreasonable about making sure he gets every second he thinks is owed to him. There’s no point in analyzing his motives in that.

Mike this a win/win. Offer to send daughter out to him a few hours early even if it means cutting the last day of school short.

 

[stealth2]

Mike this a win/win. Offer to send daughter out to him a few hours early even if it means cutting the last day of school short.

Exactly what I was going to suggest. Even if I have no clue who Mike is or why he matters.

Come on, Mom - surely you can figure out how to sweeten the pot a bit.

 

[Bloopy]

Exactly what I was going to suggest. Even if I have no clue who Mike is or why he matters.

LOL

Perhaps Mike offers services that could please both of them.

 

[VeronicaLodge]

there would be something to his argument if there was a 12 flight, but since the next flight is after one, he would be in violation of the schedule, the 10 am would be the way to go.

 

[luckymom]

Thanks to everyone who answered. After going back on forth with ex, I just decided to leave for our trip on the 27th and put DD on the flight he wants. It is just too stupid sometimes to play these ridiculous games about the difference of a couple of hours too. That later flight was cheaper too, always a plus.