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truebluemd

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Im not sure what the seniors told you, but IMO, unless oyu have a court order for a home study, or the like, you have no authority to make demands about whats going on in moms home. That means, its none of your business how or what she cooks. If its affecting the health, safety, or welfare of the kids, then take the matter to court. What you have said is a sign of a control freak. Making an ultimatimatum using your visiation as a bargaining chip will only cause trouble for you.
 


Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Forfeiting visitation:
Under inflluence or drugs alchohol.
Good reason to believe to leave state/country without mutual consent.
Attempting to travel with child in car without child restraints.
Reason to believe child is in rooms full of tabacco smoke.
Good reason to believe child is not being washed/fed properly.
Child is not being treated as should. ( for example child has mild signs of autism and must be approached accordingy, and complaints from caregivers confirm this.)
Hey I can go on. And if u want to argue please go post in Womperroom
Is that in YOUR court order because if not then you have no right to deny visitation without going to court and having the COURT suspend visitation.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
Is that in YOUR court order because if not then you have no right to deny visitation without going to court and having the COURT suspend visitation.
Did you notice that he placed that under "forfeiting" visitation? A CP can't forfeit visitation. They can deny, but not forfeit, unless that is, it is they that is exercising visitation... there's that ignorance again.
 

LdiJ

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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? PA

This evening is yet another sunday evening where my ex wife returned our son from weekend visitation with a strange unattractive smell. Sort of like in the area of body odor and/or moldy furniture.
1st off she to this day will not let me see her apartment because her boyfriend will not let me see it(such a dramatic couple, I have never shown any aggression towards their relationship, plus I have a partner as well). I told her it's none of his buisness and go somewhere else while I see the place if he has such a problem with me(never even spoke to me before) Although my attorney says I have every right to see it, im still trying to work with her without getting the law involved on this as I am getting more and more concerned. Im trying to ask her questions like what she is cooking that may cause it, ect...
Anyway what can I do if she doesnt give in? I really do not want to deny her overnight visitiation, but its looking I may have to go in that direction.
I honestly do not know where in the heck your attorney is coming up with the idea you having the right to inspect mom's living quarters.

Unless your court orders specifically state that you are allowed to inspect her living quarters you absolutely are NOT allowed to even step foot in them without a specific invite from mom...nor is she allowed to step foot in yours.

In fact, its most common for judges to ensure that pickups and dropoffs take place in a manner that specifically avoids either parent invading the other's "space".

The "law" isn't going to get involved and make her let you into her home.

You absolutely CANNOT deny visitation over strange odors. That will absolutely get you totalled in court.
 

Dumbhubby

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Ohhhhhhhhhh my

Ok 1st off YES a concerned parent CAN deny visitation, and same as a parent CAN deny returning to custodial parent, despite what any statutes state. Point is the laws are OPEN for special circumstances. How can u forget that? And to make it even more simple for you....is there is specific statute that specifically states a parent can not throw a child in a fire???? See what Im getting at Johhny Cochrane?
PARENTS MUST communicate with eachother regarding their children no matter how much they hate eachother, which is something u forgot again.
SHE IS NOT, which is a HUGE violation and I can simply deny her based on that and WIN to any judge. Telling me such a smell is from a "new carpet" and returning child, who needs a strict schedule, HOURS late from bogus excuses is a VIOLATION.
Are u at least beginning to catch my drift here? I wouldnt be so concerned if he smelled like french fries.
 

Dumbhubby

Member
Im not sure what the seniors told you, but IMO, unless oyu have a court order for a home study, or the like, you have no authority to make demands about whats going on in moms home. That means, its none of your business how or what she cooks. If its affecting the health, safety, or welfare of the kids, then take the matter to court. What you have said is a sign of a control freak. Making an ultimatimatum using your visiation as a bargaining chip will only cause trouble for you.
Ummm I havent even told her I'll deny anything:confused:
Is anyone reading my post?
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Ok 1st off YES a concerned parent CAN deny visitation, and same as a parent CAN deny returning to custodial parent, despite what any statutes state. Point is the laws are OPEN for special circumstances. How can u forget that? And to make it even more simple for you....is there is specific statute that specifically states a parent can not throw a child in a fire???? See what Im getting at Johhny Cochrane?
PARENTS MUST communicate with eachother regarding their children no matter how much they hate eachother, which is something u forgot again.
SHE IS NOT, which is a HUGE violation and I can simply deny her based on that and WIN to any judge. Telling me such a smell is from a "new carpet" and returning child, who needs a strict schedule, HOURS late from bogus excuses is a VIOLATION.
Are u at least beginning to catch my drift here? I wouldnt be so concerned if he smelled like french fries.

You are an idiot and ignorant. Deny visitation and mom can file a contempt and ask for a modification of custody on the basis of your stupidity. If she is violating the court order then dim bulb you file a motion for contempt with the court. Are you catching my drift here, dumb hubby?
 

Dumbhubby

Member
You are an idiot and ignorant. Deny visitation and mom can file a contempt and ask for a modification of custody on the basis of your stupidity. If she is violating the court order then dim bulb you file a motion for contempt with the court. Are you catching my drift here, dumb hubby?
Nothing has to be filed and wait for months when there are situations that prove safety for the child. How hard is that for you to understand?
Ok Ok Ok Ok MODERATOR PLEASE DELETE this thread as the hounds have completely, yet again, completely blown this out of proportion.
NONE of these people have no idea what my child's needs are, which is why I, ME, have cusotody of him, and not her. Judge didnt even have to think about handing him over to me. I am trying to work with the ex spouse before getting into the law AND WIN, which WOULD result in her having far less time.
But no worries that time is coming and I'll make sure to direct her to this forum so YOU PEOPLE can wipe her tears.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
Nothing has to be filed and wait for months when there are situations that prove safety for the child. How hard is that for you to understand?
Ok Ok Ok Ok MODERATOR PLEASE DELETE this thread as the hounds have completely, yet again, completely blown this out of proportion.
NONE of these people have no idea what my child's needs are, which is why I, ME, have cusotody of him, and not her. Judge didnt even have to think about handing him over to me. I am trying to work with the ex spouse before getting into the law AND WIN, which WOULD result in her having far less time.
But no worries that time is coming and I'll make sure to direct her to this forum so YOU PEOPLE can wipe her tears.
See ya dumb dumb!
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Nothing has to be filed and wait for months when there are situations that prove safety for the child. How hard is that for you to understand?
Ok Ok Ok Ok MODERATOR PLEASE DELETE this thread as the hounds have completely, yet again, completely blown this out of proportion.
NONE of these people have no idea what my child's needs are, which is why I, ME, have cusotody of him, and not her. Judge didnt even have to think about handing him over to me. I am trying to work with the ex spouse before getting into the law AND WIN, which WOULD result in her having far less time.
But no worries that time is coming and I'll make sure to direct her to this forum so YOU PEOPLE can wipe her tears.
Dad, you are really putting yourself in a very tough position legally. You are assuming that you will win on something that all legal case law and history says that not only will you not win, but that you will get totalled in court.

Please do yourself a favor and get a consult with a family law attorney in your area. Parents have LOST custody over believing that they have the kind of power that you think that you have.
 

txmom512

Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? PA

This evening is yet another sunday evening where my ex wife returned our son from weekend visitation with a strange unattractive smell. Sort of like in the area of body odor and/or moldy furniture.
1st off she to this day will not let me see her apartment because her boyfriend will not let me see it(such a dramatic couple, I have never shown any aggression towards their relationship, plus I have a partner as well). I told her it's none of his buisness and go somewhere else while I see the place if he has such a problem with me(never even spoke to me before) Although my attorney says I have every right to see it, im still trying to work with her without getting the law involved on this as I am getting more and more concerned. Im trying to ask her questions like what she is cooking that may cause it, ect...
Anyway what can I do if she doesnt give in? I really do not want to deny her overnight visitiation, but its looking I may have to go in that direction.
Honestly, that's just idiotic... My gramma's house has a musty smell because her husband was an antique dealer and her house is full of antiques, and we all smell musty when we leave it. My mom used to live in a beautiful old apartment in the historic district of town, and it smelled the same way... It doesn't mean anything, it's just old...
Not to mention, like the others said, he's a boy; and boys stink. It's most likely nothing more than him not bathing while he's there.

My little house is older, but very nice. And there is No way in HE!! I'd ever let my ex in my house. My house is not his business.

Seriously dude, get over it.
 

>Charlotte<

Lurker
Blah, blah, blah.

You've been sniping at your ex for every little petty thing since she left you. You're bitter and vindictive and your only motivation is to pester her out of spite. If it's that obvious to strangers on an Internet forum, I can only imagine what people who actually know you can see.

You can realize you're wrong here, or you can realize you're wrong in court, but you are wrong. All that's left is for you to accept that. It's not our problem if you won't.
 
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