Much Needed Advice!!!

[Perky]

Maybe the $502 was imputed income to compensate for his 32 vs. 40 hours of work???

 

[truebluemd]

BINGO!

OP, I think your CS was correctly calculated. If health insurance or child care were not included, then you should consider a modification, but it looks like the judge did his job right.

By you getting credit for your other child, it decreases your gross income, and your percentage of the combined child support, requiring him to pay more.

 

[4children]

Hi truebluemd,

He thinks that he did get credit. I can't explain what's going on. Both Judges on the Custody and the CS Secretary did call and say that X spoke to one of the other Secretaries. And when she get the Judge to look at the order again, she will contact me. This may take days.
I thank you for doing this.

Mom Gross- $2526

Mom- Number of Legal dependent children (1) other than 2 I'm seeking CS for.

Dad Gross- $3519
Dad carry insurance of $290 a month
There is know Daycare at this time.

I may have given you the wrong %s.
Total days in year each parent has custody:

Mom- 235 Each Parents custody share: Mom 65%
Dad - 130 Each Parents custody share: Dad 36%

Order shows Mom Gross at $2526-399 credit = 2127 @ 34%
Dad Gross at $3519 + that 502 = 4021 @ 66%

Number of children for whom support is sought 2

When I look at teh info you gave me, dad did not get credit for the other child. What happened is that his gross income got increased by 502, but I dont know why. If he got credit for gf child, his income would decrease, which in turn decreases the combined child support and his percentage.

What I dont understand, is why your share is 65 percent when he makes more than you. I put the number in my self and his share is about 60 percent. Is daycare involved. Who pays health insurance, how much. If you send me the numbers, Ill try to run them for you on the worksheet
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I'm only speaking from experience, and i still have a lot to learn!

 

[truebluemd]

did you get a copy of the worksheet to see how the number were entered. In my county, they always give us a copy of the worksheet

Anywho, I see that without the 502 additional, dad owes you 592/month for two kids.


With the additional 502, dad owes you 684, or somewhere in those ballparks. What is currently his monthly obligation. I didnt see a worksheet for shared income.

PS - Make sure you propery use the quotes when quoting me or others so we know the difference between what we said, and your responses.

 

[4children]

Hi truebluemd,

He thinks that he did get credit. I can't explain what's going on. Both Judges on the Custody and the CS Secretary did call and say that X spoke to one of the other Secretaries. And when she it the Judge to look at the order again, she will contact me.
I thank you for doing this.

Mom Gross- $2526

Mom- Number of Legal dependent children (1) other than 2 I'm seeking CS for.

Dad Gross- $3519
Dad carry insurance of $290
There is know Daycare at this time.

I may have given you the wrong %s.
Total days in year each parent has custody:

Mom- 235 Each Parents custody share: Mom 65%
Dad - 130 Each Parents custody share: Dad 36%

Order shows Mom Gross at $2526-399 credit = 2127 @ 34%
Dad Gross at $3519 + that 502 = 4021 @ 66%

Number of children for whom support is sought 2

Quote: When I look at teh info you gave me, dad did not get credit for the other child. What happened is that his gross income got increased by 502, but I dont know why. If he got credit for gf child, his income would decrease, which in turn decreases the combined child support and his percentage.

What I dont understand, is why your share is 65 percent when he makes more than you. I put the number in my self and his share is about 60 percent. Is daycare involved. Who pays health insurance, how much. If you send me the numbers, Ill try to run them for you on the worksheet
__________________
I'm only speaking from experience, and i still have a lot to learn!

 

[4children]

did you get a copy of the worksheet to see how the number were entered. In my county, they always give us a copy of the worksheet

Anywho, I see that without the 502 additional, dad owes you 592/month for two kids.


With the additional 502, dad owes you 684, or somewhere in those ballparks. What is currently his monthly obligation. I didnt see a worksheet for shared income.

PS - Make sure you propery use the quotes when quoting me or others so we know the difference between what we said, and your responses.

The Judge calculation with the 399 credit for Mom and what ever the 502 for Dad means, the child support Dad is obligated to pay is- $419.00 a month at this time. I assumed it was because of shared custody. Because the amount is higher on the Va. CS guideline

 

[4children]

BINGO!

OP, I think your CS was correctly calculated. If health insurance or child care were not included, then you should consider a modification, but it looks like the judge did his job right.

By you getting credit for your other child, it decreases your gross income, and your percentage of the combined child support, requiring him to pay more.

truebluemd,
Dad's insurance is 290 a month
and there's no child care expenses.

So, that means that the insurance will reduce the child support for the kids. Will that be the percentage of the 290.00 or the whole 290.00?

 

[Perky]

truebluemd,
Dad's insurance is 290 a month
and there's no child care expenses.

So, that means that the insurance will reduce the child support for the kids. Will that be the percentage of the 290.00 or the whole 290.00?

The amount he can deduct is the amount that he has to pay for family coverage minus the cost of single coverage for himself. If he doesn't have to pay for single coverage, then he can deduct the whole amount.

 

[truebluemd]

truebluemd,
Dad's insurance is 290 a month
and there's no child care expenses.

So, that means that the insurance will reduce the child support for the kids. Will that be the percentage of the 290.00 or the whole 290.00?

from what I remember when I did the calculation, the amount is deducted from the combined CS obligation, then he pays his percentage of the remaining CS.

 

[truebluemd]

So, that means that the insurance will reduce the child support for the kids. Will that be the percentage of the 290.00 or the whole 290.00?

Yes, but insurance must be paid. Its a lil different in my state, where insurance is deducted from dads share of the CS, not the combined CS

 

[4children]

Thanks to everyone for your help. You-all made it much clear. Now I'll wait patiently to see why the $502.00 was added to Dads gross calculation. Will let you-all know.

Thanks again,
and Have a Bless Day

 

[nextwife]

She's my biological daughter, but not Ex biological daughter.

Is he the LEGAL father?

It matters not whether he's the biodad IF he is the LEGAL dad. For example, if he signed the AOP, he could be legal dad, but not biodad.

 

[4children]

Is he the LEGAL father?


Nextwife. Are you asking about my Biological daughter, or the child which Dad is trying to get credit for with a live-in girlfriend. By, the way. What is the meaning of AOP?


It matters not whether he's the biodad IF he is the LEGAL dad. For example, if he signed the AOP, he could be legal dad, but not biodad.

If you're talking about the girlfriend child. If, I'm correct, her Biological Father is very involved in the child life. X is a very mulipitive (properly smelled wrong) man. He, has and will do anything to get his way. Especially, getting out of his obligation. I have let him run the show for eight years now. (Control me.) I signed myself into a Mental Institute at one time, to get help and to get away from him. And, he even used that against me, when he got the opportunity. I was feeling sorry for myself letting a man control me that way. I learned that abuse is abuse rather you have the scars or not. He never hit me. Mentally, I was out of it. Through all of that, I still will not allow myself to hate him. He's not worth me going to the Pit. I've lived in h***, here on earth with him already.

 

[my life is mine]

4 children, does Dad perhaps have a little part time job you do not know about but DCSEA found out about? it could account for the 502.00

 

[4children]

4 children, does Dad perhaps have a little part time job you do not know about but DCSEA found out about? it could account for the 502.00

Not sure, but I don't put anything pass him. Since November of 08, he started working, as he say on his Permanent job 12 hours a day, 5-7 days a week. Told the Judge at our last Custody date , that's why he wasn't spending much time with Our children. Still, they are with me everyday of the week, to the exception of school, and the 4-5hours after school they spend with him. (With Dad 20-25 hours a week.)
Dad works third shift as of Nov. Then, when I petition for CS, he told the other Judge that now he is only working 32 hours a week, and show only 1 check stub instead of the 4 that was requested, and they let him get away with that. He is still bringing the kids at the same time as if he is working 40 plus hours. The Judge that have the CS case, and the Judge that have the Child Custody case have the same Secretary. Hope that each Judge keep good notes, and all X lies catch up with him.