If you have 2 children, why 1 worth more than other.

[CourtClerk]

I was unaware of any sub. of attorney form I had to sign. The court facilitator informed me of only the one that was not submitted by the attorney.

For it to have been submitted to the court, it must be signed by you AND the attorney....

 

[loadmaster]

For it to have been submitted to the court, it must be signed by you AND the attorney....

OK, thank you. The family court recognizes I no longer am represented by counsel, is that a totally different deal?

 

[CourtClerk]

OK, thank you. The family court recognizes I no longer am represented by counsel, is that a totally different deal?

Not until a substitution of attorney is filed.....

 

[CJane]

That's absolute BS. You can access your court file ANY TIME you want to. You simply need to go to the courthouse at which the order is filed and request the file. OR request a copy of the file in writing (for a fee) OR contact CSE if that's who is handling your case and request all documents relating to your order.

The reason I answered as I did is because his "They won't help me" appeared to be in response to my questions (since he quoted me) which regarded ONLY whether or not he had received his FILE from the CLERK.

As we don't HAVE 'facilitators' or anyone who helps us with these things, I would not/did not ask about whether or not he'd found someone at the courthouse to HELP him, only if he'd done as CC bid and actually gotten the paperwork.

I still suspect he has not.

 

[CourtClerk]

The reason I answered as I did is because his "They won't help me" appeared to be in response to my questions (since he quoted me) which regarded ONLY whether or not he had received his FILE from the CLERK.

As we don't HAVE 'facilitators' or anyone who helps us with these things, I would not/did not ask about whether or not he'd found someone at the courthouse to HELP him, only if he'd done as CC bid and actually gotten the paperwork.

I still suspect he has not.

What I suspect happened is that he pulled his file, got copies and then went to the facilitator's office where they turned him away, which is why he said "they won't help me." It's plausible.

In this day and age, I've learned to read/listen to what people are saying around here and then come up with my own conclusions as to what REALLY happened. Especially in CA, you ask ABC question and you get the answer to XYZ

 

[CJane]

What I suspect happened is that he pulled his file, got copies and then went to the facilitator's office where they turned him away, which is why he said "they won't help me." It's plausible.

In this day and age, I've learned to read/listen to what people are saying around here and then come up with my own conclusions as to what REALLY happened. Especially in CA, you ask ABC question and you get the answer to XYZ

OH! And see, waht I was suspecting is that he went to the facilitator's office sans file/etc and said "Do this for me" because he's coming across in his posts as someone who wants things done FOR HIM rather than getting assistance w/doing things FOR HIMSELF.

But maybe that's just my interpretation.

 

[CourtClerk]

OH! And see, waht I was suspecting is that he went to the facilitator's office sans file/etc and said "Do this for me" because he's coming across in his posts as someone who wants things done FOR HIM rather than getting assistance w/doing things FOR HIMSELF.

But maybe that's just my interpretation.

I will agree that he comes off as someone that wants things done FOR HIM as opposed to doing it HIMSELF, however, I think somewhere I read that he got a copy of the judgment, which makes me think he took them to the FLF. For the record, the FLF's office will do the paperwork for him, the self help center rarely does.

I personally think that having the FLF's office do paperwork for a pro per litigant does them an absolute disservice because 99% of the time, after the paperwork is completed, the litigant doesn't even take the time to READ what they have. Therefore, they are at a loss on how to present themselves in court. It keeps them being lazy...

 

[loadmaster]

What I suspect happened is that he pulled his file, got copies and then went to the facilitator's office where they turned him away, which is why he said "they won't help me." It's plausible.

In this day and age, I've learned to read/listen to what people are saying around here and then come up with my own conclusions as to what REALLY happened. Especially in CA, you ask ABC question and you get the answer to XYZ

Yes that is exactly what I did the day after it was suggested. After getting the copy of the judgement I went to the facilitator and asked for help with filling out the proper paperwork for modification. Not for them to do it, but for myself to fill out. After looking up my case number in there computer and also checking the paper file they informed me since there was no order granting attorneys motion to be relieved as counsel, they would not be able to help me or advise me until it was filed. I guess I should have explained better than "they wont help me" because I could see how that would come across as me just wanting them to do all the work for me.

 

[loadmaster]

OH! And see, waht I was suspecting is that he went to the facilitator's office sans file/etc and said "Do this for me" because he's coming across in his posts as someone who wants things done FOR HIM rather than getting assistance w/doing things FOR HIMSELF.

But maybe that's just my interpretation.

Yes thats what I said when I went in there "Do this for me now", and to my suprise by being a jerk to them, "they could not help me".

 

[CourtClerk]

Yes thats what I said when I went in there "Do this for me now", and to my suprise by being a jerk to them, "they could not help me".

watch it.....

 

[loadmaster]

I will agree that he comes off as someone that wants things done FOR HIM as opposed to doing it HIMSELF, however, I think somewhere I read that he got a copy of the judgment, which makes me think he took them to the FLF. For the record, the FLF's office will do the paperwork for him, the self help center rarely does.

I personally think that having the FLF's office do paperwork for a pro per litigant does them an absolute disservice because 99% of the time, after the paperwork is completed, the litigant doesn't even take the time to READ what they have. Therefore, they are at a loss on how to present themselves in court. It keeps them being lazy...

I would love to be able to know how to represent myself in court, I dont know if its being lazy, you definetely get a false sense of security when hiring an attorney that everything will be taken care of, and by filling out the paperwork yourself/myself gives you more self aware of what is going on. Im addition does anyone know if arrears can be modified in CA, and does the interest go to the children or the state? Thank You.