another weird case....

[CallMeMack]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? KY

short background info:
mother had the baby, official copy the hospital or state delivered didn't have his name on it. paternity was not established.

is the bio father guaranteed any sort of rights to the child regardless of situation if mother goes to court for CS ? once mother opens the CS case what does mother wait for ? (assuming paternity will have to be established by blood test first)

thanks....

have a couple more random made up scenarios. working on college class project. harder than i thought.

 

[Isis1]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? KY

short background info:
mother had the baby, official copy the hospital or state delivered didn't have his name on it. paternity was not established.

is the bio father guaranteed any sort of rights to the child regardless of situation if mother goes to court for CS ? once mother opens the CS case what does mother wait for ? (assuming paternity will have to be established by blood test first)

thanks....

have a couple more random made up scenarios. working on college class project. harder than i thought.

schoolwork again?

 

[Antigone*]

We've all done our homework already, now it is time for you to do yours. I'm sure your professor is asking you to do research, not ask people on a forum.

The FA forum is not a tool or resource for homework.

 

[Isis1]

We've all done our homework already, now it is time for you to do yours. I'm sure your professor is asking you to do research, not ask people on a forum.

The FA forum is not a tool or resource for homework.

i know the answer though!! i get an A!!

 

[Proserpina]

The "posting history" function here is quite the tool

 

[Antigone*]

The "posting history" function here is quite the tool

I guess the jock decided to back to school. Hey Mack, how are the kids ~ your parents must be so proud.

 

[mommyof4]

I guess the jock decided to back to school. Hey Mack, how are the kids ~ your parents must be so proud.

He only has one child (at least per his 2 year old thread, he was the a potential father of one child) AND in his defense, even though he didn't want to be involved with the raising and nurturing of the child, at least he was asking about the legalities of supporting the child and what was the best way to do so. He didn't ask how to get out of supporting the child. Not the best Dad material presented, but at least he was trying to be somewhat responsible.

 

[mommyof4]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? KY

short background info:
mother had the baby, official copy the hospital or state delivered didn't have his name on it. paternity was not established.

is the bio father guaranteed any sort of rights to the child regardless of situation if mother goes to court for CS ? once mother opens the CS case what does mother wait for ? (assuming paternity will have to be established by blood test first)

thanks....

have a couple more random made up scenarios. working on college class project. harder than i thought.

Is this truly homework or is this about the child you didn't want to raise?

 

[Proserpina]

Is this truly homework or is this about the child you didn't want to raise?

I do wonder what class this would be for....the question is incomplete enough to render it basically unanswerable.

hort background info:
mother had the baby, official copy the hospital or state delivered didn't have his name on it. paternity was not established.

Official copy of what? The baby? Birth certificate? Didn't have whose name? The baby? Dad? Were the parents married? There's not nearly enough information to enable the student to answer appropriately.

is the bio father guaranteed any sort of rights to the child regardless of situation if mother goes to court for CS ? once mother opens the CS case what does mother wait for ? (assuming paternity will have to be established by blood test first)

And this is the "money shot" of the post

So to speak.

 

[mommyof4]

I do wonder what class this would be for....the question is incomplete enough to render it basically unanswerable.



Official copy of what? The baby? Birth certificate? Didn't have whose name? The baby? Dad? Were the parents married? There's not nearly enough information to enable the student to answer appropriately.



And this is the "money shot" of the post

So to speak.

Kinda' makes me wonder if he's had a change of heart.

 

[Antigone*]

He only has one child (at least per his 2 year old thread, he was the a potential father of one child) AND in his defense, even though he didn't want to be involved with the raising and nurturing of the child, at least he was asking about the legalities of supporting the child and what was the best way to do so. He didn't ask how to get out of supporting the child. Not the best Dad material presented, but at least he was trying to be somewhat responsible.

I won't go back and reread his posts, but I do remember a few things: 1- he wanted to transfer his assets to his parents' name so that he would appear to be penniless. 2- he wanted to go back to school so that he wouldn't have any income.

Yea, mommy I concede that he didn't appear to be quite the deadbeat. I guess it is just like being a little pregnant.

 

[mommyof4]

I won't go back and reread his posts, but I do remember a few things: 1- he wanted to transfer his assets to his parents' name so that he would appear to be penniless. 2- he wanted to go back to school so that he wouldn't have any income.

Yea, mommy I concede that he didn't appear to be quite the deadbeat. I guess it is just like being a little pregnant.

Actually, that's not exactly what he was asking. He was asking if he and the mother of the child came to a legal agreement for him to pay CS in a lump sum amount (50,000 every 6 years) and kept the financial arrangement out of court, would the agreement drawn up by the joint atty be enough to keep her from filing for CS in court (in which, apparently he was convinced he was going to get screwed due to her friends' and family's connections) If he was going to be at risk of being screwed over, he was contemplating putting everything in his parents' names to avoid any liens that could be placed on him. He was QUICKLY disabsued of that fantasy and at NO time did he ever say he was NOT going to financially support the child. He (and apparently, at the time, she) were hoping to avoid court.


first post from his original thread:

Not real sure where to post this. Was just curious on some advice about it.

Had a one night stand with a girl in KY. I'm from TX. She ended up pregnant. I've agreed to pay the child support. Is it legal to pay in lump sums ?? Like 50k each 6 years ? Is there tax on that ?

Do I need to be present at the birth to sign the birth certificate or is that something that can be done through the mail with a Notary ? I really don't want anything to do with either of them, but we're going to try and find an attorney together to work out a "contract" so that she doesn't end up going through CS court. I'll be signing over all custody rights.

The post you are referring to re: putting his assets in his parents' names:

So would I need a lawyer present ?? She's already threatening me with taking everything to CS court and basically raping me because she's got a friend who's an attorney. And I think her best friend's aunt might be the judge - can i file for a change of courts to one that has no relationship with her ?? I'm already thinking I'm going to have to have everything removed from my name and put in my parents name so that there is nothing she can put a lien on. I've got no problem paying, but I don't want to be raped just because she is a b**ch and she can

What all can she request for that I pay ?? Monthly child support I know. what about health insurance? day care costs ?

He was asking about what would happen if he returned to school because he was an athlete who was subject to contract negotiations yearly. If his contract was not renewed, he clearly said he would have to go back to school so he would be able to get a real job.

not really voluntarily. i play a sport. contracts are year to year. if i can't get one the following year then i've got no choice but to go back to school and get a job in the real world

I just reread the thread for the 3rd time.

He was clear from the beginning that he was willing (not happy, mind you) to financially support the child.

 

[Proserpina]

Actually, that's not exactly what he was asking. He was asking if he and the mother of the child came to a legal agreement for him to pay CS in a lump sum amount (50,000 every 6 years) and kept the financial arrangement out of court, would the agreement drawn up by the joint atty be enough to keep her from filing for CS in court (in which, apparently he was convinced he was going to get screwed due to her friends' and family's connections) If he was going to be at risk of being screwed over, he was contemplating putting everything in his parents' names to avoid any liens that could be placed on him. He was QUICKLY disabsued of that fantasy and at NO time did he ever say he was NOT going to financially support the child. He (and apparently, at the time, she) were hoping to avoid court.


first post from his original thread:


The post you are referring to re: putting his assets in his parents' names:



He was asking about what would happen if he returned to school because he was an athlete who was subject to contract negotiations yearly. If his contract was not renewed, he clearly said he would have to go back to school so he would be able to get a real job.


I just reread the thread for the 3rd time.

He was clear from the beginning that he was willing (not happy, mind you) to financially support the child.

Y'know I'm going to retreat a little.

IF Mack agreed - and has continued - to support his child (even though there should be no question and whether or not he's happy about it), then he's not quite a deadbeat.

And IF he's actually gone back to school to try and provide even more support for himself and his family - then it's a few more (a lot more, actually) points knocked off the Deadbeat Dad scale.

IF he's genuinely asking this question as homework - shame on you Mack, you've been here long enough to know we don't do that....

But IF the situation applies to him...then Mack, just be honest. Tell us what's going on and you'll get the help you need.

Sound fair?